Kansas Crimson

I think it's fantastic. No more Prestons and Cliffs. More Devontes and Masons. I would not confidently say that a single player at KU under Roy or Bill that played in the NBA would have passed the true amateur test. I think you're incredibly naive if you think the G League thing threatens only &quo...

The problem is that it's not hard to gameplan for Doke; it's nearly impossible to gameplan for a guy like Grimes. Of course, gameplanning for Doke means opening up soft spots elsewhere (or burning fouls). I could very much see a scenario unfolding often this year where Doke is pulled from foul 5 unt...

I've seen that sentiment a few different places. A few thoughts: 1. I don't think "you'll get paid [to go to college], too" will hold true for a few years at least. I think the investigation/trials will certainly have a chilling effect on that. 2. I agree that, in pretty much every way bes...

Just a thought experiment:

If, on November 5, the four Champions Classic coaches (just so we're on the same page: K, Cal, Izzo and Self) released a statement saying all net revenue from the event was going to be divided among their players...what would happen?

Cal is a carnival barker and annoying as hell, but he's also, in a very important way, perhaps the most honest voice in the sport. (I also note that if, say, Bill and Cal held a joint presser to say this shit needs to be fixed, and players need to be able to monetize name/image/likeness, it would ha...

If Cal is verified scum because he's been complicit in or aware of players getting improper benefits over the years then sadly our coach is going to be getting labeled scum as well....because as much as some of you hate Calipari he and Self seem to have a lot in common. Personally I don't think Sel...

Nice fucking job, NCAA. Assuming there's one slot per G League team for this program, you've just chased about a quarter of the top-100 players every single year out of college basketball.

The only surprise is it took this long. College basketball is well down the path of squandering its enormous built-in advantages in service of people who, for financial reasons or otherwise, dribble piss down their leg at the notion of the players getting some approximation of what they're worth. It...

No. Well, yes. Yes, something like the Olympic model would be easy to implement and monitor, and would go a very long way toward squeezing out the most rotten parts of the system. It is fine for you to have a personal distaste for this. But, at some point you will need to realize that distaste trul...

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:12 am And just like one side doesn't have obvious/easy solves for their hopes and dreams at KCPhogushering college basketball, I don't have easy solves for Hutchinson CC'ing college basketball.

It's just a preferred route to tackle the issue.

One side DOES have obvious and easy solutions, though.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:58 am What if the taint isn’t the money itself, but the simple fact the money is all underground?

If I understand pwhit's position, the taint is in the presence of the money at all; pwhit can't abide by the underground money being given to players above board (and reported and taxed etc.).

I can't go back in time and take the joy out of watching those games but now at this moment, yea, for sure. There's a black eye. If it's found out that those involved at Kansas were responsible with getting him and his people tens of thousands of dollars, then absolutely, it's not as good a season....

Eh, I think Grimes will be really good. Much closer to Josh Jackson than Kelly Oubre. Freshman Henry or Rush, but a better ballhandler/passer, seems right.

I think Doke will be more impactful than his ranking says. I also think he'd go for like 26/10 for a lot of other schools.

We've had this argument. Unfortunately (fortunately) Vega deleted that massive thread. I don't want the focus of college basketball athletes to be contracts, deals, endorsements. And it doesn't need to be. Fans follow schools not individual players. We don't need the top 50 players every year to st...

Nike and Adidas sre investing in the opportunity to represent these kids omce they go pro. Very little has to do with college choice. Its all about hetting the hooks in early in pitential profit cows. I don't know about that. The Adidas guy said "what's best for Adidas" is these top Adida...

We've had this argument. Unfortunately (fortunately) Vega deleted that massive thread. I don't want the focus of college basketball athletes to be contracts, deals, endorsements. And it doesn't need to be. Fans follow schools not individual players. We don't need the top 50 players every year to st...

regarding the whole keeping the money out of college basketball thing: what about the whole fact this shady money has been in college basketball all along? are there fans who really wanna say the past several decades - past always - of college hoops has sucked thus far just cuz players were getting...

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:03 am That doesn't make sense.

Sure it does. You take the position that there's something fundamentally different about a kid with a $4 million trust fund from his parents than a kid with $4 million in the bank as a draft bonus.

I know you struggle with it. We just don't see things the same way. I prefer to keep money out of college basketball as best we can and you don't care. Again, you'd prefer KC Phogushers and i'd prefer Western Hutchinson's CC Birds. Ok. So college basketball should be more accessible for rich kids t...

No absolutely not....but I also think Duke may not have a coach talking about it explicitly in a text like dumbass KT. Maybe, maybe not. Certainly were I a defendant in one of these cases, I'd fight like hell to introduce evidence of a bidding war (in that, if there's a bidding war, then there's no...