republicans have no shame

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TraditionKU wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:04 am a more apt description, i think, is that more has been proven/corroborated than disproven

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-doss ... rospective
"The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product."

"In that sense, notes taken by a special agent have much in common with the notes that a journalist might take while covering a story—the substance of those notes could be true or false."

"But there is, at present, no evidence in the official record that confirms other direct ties or their relevance to the 2016 presidential campaign."

"Cohen and others within the Trump Organization were actively working on the Trump Tower Moscow project as late as June 2016."
"But much of the reporting simply remains uncorroborated, at least by the yardstick we are using."

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-doss ... rospective

Seems more uncorroborated than corroborated.

p.s. So was this Trump tower actually built?



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Gee, I seem to remember when right wing Republicans were gleeful over breaking up some conspiracy to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago. The odd thing was that the conspirators seemed unlikely to be able to find the Sears at their local mall, much less get to Chicago.

Now, you're offering up the apology that a conspiracy with our national adversary of a considerable time period doesn't count because some building didn't get built. The Trump cult is something to behold.
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TraditionKU wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:04 am a more apt description, i think, is that more has been proven/corroborated than disproven

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-doss ... rospective
Interesting, thanks.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with [Aras Agalarov, an Azerbaijani-Russian billionaire property-developer] this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin [Agalarov].

Donald Trump Jr. responded, "… if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer."

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#pEePeeTapE
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DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:27 pm#pEePeeTapE
if only!!
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The tape has no value after it's release.
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Geezer wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:27 pm The tape has no value after it's release.
i bet it’d fetch almost as much as the kardashian or pamela lee sex tapes
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TraditionKU wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:42 am
Geezer wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:27 pm The tape has no value after it's release.
i bet it’d fetch almost as much as the kardashian or pamela lee sex tapes
Either of which you can see for free on the interwebs.

Hence Geezer's response.
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no value to whom?

no value to the Russians, sure, cuz they can't blackmail potus any more. No value to someone otherwise trying to sell it for some commercial gain, ok.

but its value would be in the moment of its release, cuz only then would we get to see just how much shame these family values republicans don't have.
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chiknbut wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:14 am
TraditionKU wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:42 am
Geezer wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:27 pm The tape has no value after it's release.
i bet it’d fetch almost as much as the kardashian or pamela lee sex tapes
Either of which you can see for free on the interwebs.

Hence Geezer's response.
No. Geezer thinks it's being used to blackmail POTUS. Cuz Geezer is sane.
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Are we supposed to take that article seriously?

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Why would you not?
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:06 am Are we supposed to take that article seriously?

LOL
The article is obviously a far left opinion piece but correctly points out the fact that the GOP has finally thrown away their false pretense of being the moral compass of family values and fiscal responsibility and are fully interested in only themselves.
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More "lulz":

Cell Phone Records Show Michael Cohen Was Near Prague When Alleged Meeting with Russia Took Place. Electronic eavesdropping also recorded a phone call between Russians discussing the Trump lawyer’s visit to the city

Michael Cohen’s cell phone pinged off cell phone towers in Prague during the summer of 2016, suggesting that Cohen was there meeting with Russian government officials as alleged in the infamous Steele dossier, McClatchy reported, citing four people familiar with the matter.

McClatchy also reported that electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a call between Russians officials during which one said Cohen was in Prague. At the meeting, Cohen and Russians allegedly discussed how to hide the campaign’s close relationship with the Russian government. Both revelations have been shared with Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating collusion between the Donald Trump presidential campaign and the Russian government.

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Feral wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:55 pm More "lulz":

Cell Phone Records Show Michael Cohen Was Near Prague When Alleged Meeting with Russia Took Place. Electronic eavesdropping also recorded a phone call between Russians discussing the Trump lawyer’s visit to the city

Michael Cohen’s cell phone pinged off cell phone towers in Prague during the summer of 2016, suggesting that Cohen was there meeting with Russian government officials as alleged in the infamous Steele dossier, McClatchy reported, citing four people familiar with the matter.

McClatchy also reported that electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a call between Russians officials during which one said Cohen was in Prague. At the meeting, Cohen and Russians allegedly discussed how to hide the campaign’s close relationship with the Russian government. Both revelations have been shared with Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating collusion between the Donald Trump presidential campaign and the Russian government.

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Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Wow, a republican with some decency, and self-respect.
What's the over/under that this earns him being primaried by Trump and his tribe?

‘The McCain family deserves better,’ Republican senator says as Trump continues to lash out
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Trump's continued attacks on McCain are item #3,259 on his list of shameful, embarrassing acts. And now Trump supporters are attacking the family via social media as well.
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