AP Polls Nov 26th

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Eh, rankings mean jack shit at this point. We already know we are top 4 this whole year.
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pdub wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:59 pm Kansas has the no. 2 SOS in RPI.
Gonzaga 48th.

Kansas SOS Kenpom 7th.
Gonzaga 90th.

Kansas SOS BPI 5th.
Gonzaga SOS BPI 107th.
SoS is worthless until about February.
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twocoach wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:01 pm
pdub wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:59 pm Kansas has the no. 2 SOS in RPI.
Gonzaga 48th.

Kansas SOS Kenpom 7th.
Gonzaga 90th.

Kansas SOS BPI 5th.
Gonzaga SOS BPI 107th.
SoS is worthless until about February.
Oh, OK.
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Adding onto the NCAA rankings from earlier:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings

Ohio State, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin, Loyola Marymount all better than KU.
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Among the critics of the new system Monday was statistician Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight, who called the first list "the worst rankings I've ever seen in any sport, ever."
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twocoach wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:01 pm
pdub wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:59 pm Kansas has the no. 2 SOS in RPI.
Gonzaga 48th.

Kansas SOS Kenpom 7th.
Gonzaga 90th.

Kansas SOS BPI 5th.
Gonzaga SOS BPI 107th.
SoS is worthless until about February.
By which time, the Zags' SoS will be plummeting due the competition in their conference, in contrast to ours, as we play the meat of the BigXII schedule
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But Gonzaga is playing NDSU tonight. You know they were really good back in 09 when they gave KU a game. And then in 2015 when they played 2 seed Gonzaga to a 10 point game. So sick of this mid major program getting so much credit. Beat up on piss poor conference year in and year out (still less in a row than KU has in a power 5, fucking pathetic). Play maybe 1-2 tourney teams, get a top seed then fade away when the moment comes because it’s too big for you. Keep dreaming Gonzaga your moment is never going to come. Goodnight
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Better to be ranked No. 2.
It's about that target thing, although seems like KU always has one.
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Jayhawks14 wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:13 pm But Gonzaga is playing NDSU tonight. You know they were really good back in 09 when they gave KU a game. And then in 2015 when they played 2 seed Gonzaga to a 10 point game. So sick of this mid major program getting so much credit. Beat up on piss poor conference year in and year out (still less in a row than KU has in a power 5, fucking pathetic). Play maybe 1-2 tourney teams, get a top seed then fade away when the moment comes because it’s too big for you. Keep dreaming Gonzaga your moment is never going to come. Goodnight
"get a top seed then fade away when the moment comes because it’s too big for you. Keep dreaming Gonzaga your moment is never going to come".

You mean the program that won more NCAA tournament games the last 4 seasons than KU did and played in a National Championship game?
Alrighty then.
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I’m a big fan of Newell, but he shouldnt have gone to twitter to argue his case.


https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/ ... 42763?s=21
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Soklous wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:58 am I’m a big fan of Newell, but he shouldnt have gone to twitter to argue his case.


https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/ ... 42763?s=21
Honestly, his argument is better than most of the arguments for Gonzaga. If Newell's feeling is that the Top 25 should be a ranking of who he feels are the best 25 teams in the sport then I can respect that. Although by that logic he should only change any of his rankings about once a month after a large enough additional sample size gives him a chance to reevaluate.
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Probably better than the Zags argument. But neither Gonzaga or Duke was in the good argument category.

What I’m reading is...
Head to head doesn’t matter, because Duke would be favored if they played again AFTER losing.
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He's a KenPom nerd.
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Newell is a troll
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Cascadia wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:19 am Newell is a troll
He just wants to make sure everyone knows how unbiased he is. Even if he looks silly in the process.

I understand how/why he's doing it how he is, but to me that doesn't seem like the purpose of weekly rankings....but I couldn't care less about rankings. Especially in November.
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Newell is the one who needed help with Excel, right? I assume gut is all he has to go by.
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All it takes it gut instinct. Could take you all the way to the white house
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Still a duece.

Big 12 represented the worst since 2014 with only Tech at 13 and KSU at 16.
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I think a few more B12 teams ( Iowa State? WVU? Texas? ) will find their way there eventually.
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From what I’ve seen, Iowa State looks to be ahead of KSU at this point. KSU defense has looked like good effort, but if the 3s aren’t falling, the half court looks mediocre.

Not buying anything from Texas after last week. I’ll buy Huggs making something strong.
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