Still gonna win at least a share of the conference

[twocoach]

Kansas State at Baylor this Saturday is a huge game. Need Baylor to win to keep us in range.

[Deleted User 75]

The burden of proof for the NCAA is much greater. They would have to proof that Bill Self or one of his Assistants knew of the payment or didn't have a "fully engaged compliance system to avoid violations.".

And, having a lawyer of a convicted felon saying he thought Bill Self knew and approved the payment won't be enough. They are going to have to have actual evidence and tape recordings. And, if they actually had tape recordings or any evidence, the defense would have presented that at trial. Hard to defaud someone who ask you to defaud them. That would have been a smoking gun for the defense.

LOL

The ncaa doesn't have a "burden of proof". This isn't a court of law.

Tell that to UNC...

Dude, we admitted it happened. We are no longer able to deny everything like UNC did....and this isn't an academic scandal like UNCs. Remember, other students were allowed to take those classes too....so they said out of their jurisdiction.

Also, we aren't UNC. The extreme SDS punishment should have been an indicator that they're possibly (likely?) going to hammer the main Adidas schools involved in the scandal.

[pdub]

A bunch of good teams.
Not great teams.
But I suppose that's semantics.

( elite, great, good, mediocre, bad, awful )

[CrimsonNBlue]

LOL....that's not really how it works... but I hope you're right. Love the optimism!

That’s exactly how it’s worked in certain instances in the past. Including at KU.

The only thing that makes me nervous that they might is them forcing us to label Gassnola an agent/booster. Still, most cases where a school bacated wins/banners are when the school was directly involved with the violation or the agreements and benefits from agents/boosters happened while the player was playing in college.

I think KU should be fine but the ncaa going outrageously overboard on SDS makes me less confident of that.

Don Davis was also a booster. No wins vacated.

[Soklous]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

[Deleted User 75]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

[Lonestarjayhawk]

LOL

The ncaa doesn't have a "burden of proof". This isn't a court of law.

Tell that to UNC...

Dude, we admitted it happened. We are no longer able to deny everything like UNC did....and this isn't an academic scandal like UNCs. Remember, other students were allowed to take those classes too....so they said out of their jurisdiction.

Also, we aren't UNC. The extreme SDS punishment should have been an indicator that they're possibly (likely?) going to hammer the main Adidas schools involved in the scandal.

Kansas didn't admit that Bill Self knew it or that it's compliance was not engaged. If the NCAA comes after wins and banners, the fight will be ugly. That "limited agreement" that Adidas was a booster will be tossed out.

You will comeback with some stupid "LOL Dude, you don't understand". Would love to compare resumes with you and determine who has better understanding of the NCAA.

[Deleted User 75]

Tell that to UNC...

Dude, we admitted it happened. We are no longer able to deny everything like UNC did....and this isn't an academic scandal like UNCs. Remember, other students were allowed to take those classes too....so they said out of their jurisdiction.

Also, we aren't UNC. The extreme SDS punishment should have been an indicator that they're possibly (likely?) going to hammer the main Adidas schools involved in the scandal.

Kansas didn't admit that Bill Self knew it or that it's compliance was not engaged. If the NCAA comes after wins and banners, the fight will be ugly. That "limited agreement" that Adidas was a booster will be tossed out.

You will comeback with some stupid "LOL Dude, you don't understand". Would love to compare resumes with you and determine who has better understanding of the NCAA.

LOL

your track record of ridiculous grand declarations speaks for itself. I don't need to see your resume.

[Lonestarjayhawk]

It would say "Kansas" unlike yours

[Deleted User 75]

It would say "Kansas" unlike yours

You might want to add name and contact info....plus some work history type stuff. Spruce it up a bit.

I mean, I'm super impressed it says "Kansas", but typically resumes contain a little more info. Even I know that and I went to lowly SIU Carbondale.

[Deleted User 75]

Signing with the agent was the kicker. Harsh. But gives me hope that SDS gets time served.

SDS will be cleared to play.

And he isn't saying that SDS will make up his mind by that date, he is clear...SDS will be in a Kansas uniform and playing for the Jayhawks.

Please....tell us more since you're the ncaa expert.

LOL

You're a clown.

[jfish26]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

It's still surprising to me that they're taking actions now, before anything has really come to light about Nike.

[Deleted User 75]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

It's still surprising to me that they're taking actions now, before anything has really come to light about Nike.

Will anything even come to light about Nike now? Seems iffy.

[CrimsonNBlue]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

I'm only responding to your "LOL that's not how it works" comment.

It can and has absolutely worked like that. That's where you're treading on unfamiliar territory, and whey lonestar is mocking you, especially considering his credentials.

[CrimsonNBlue]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

It's still surprising to me that they're taking actions now, before anything has really come to light about Nike.

They're trying to get the U of A punishment out of the way so they can close their book on nike (no pun intended!).

[Deleted User 75]

But that was for 5,000.00 and netted a 9 game suspension for Darnell.

This is for 2,500.00 to a guardian. Much more severe. So 7 times the suspension to Silvio.

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

I'm only responding to your "LOL that's not how it works" comment.

It can and has absolutely worked like that. That's where you're treading on unfamiliar territory, and whey lonestar is mocking you, especially considering his credentials.

He should update his credentials because he has been wrong about this (and preston) every step of the way.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Eligibility and sanctioning is quite different.

[Deleted User 75]

SDS plays and not a single couch is burnt in Morgantown on Saturday.

Tell us more Mr expert!

LOL

[jfish26]

No doubt.

Which is exactly why whatever was done in the past means nothing. They're setting new precedents. And that makes me nervous.

It's still surprising to me that they're taking actions now, before anything has really come to light about Nike.

Will anything even come to light about Nike now? Seems iffy.

Well...if I'm an Adidas school in trouble for buying players, surely I have some idea what, and who, I was bidding against. And if I'm facing penalties that will cripple recruiting and fan interest...I would certainly be interested in people knowing what was happening at other places.

[twocoach]

That’s exactly how it’s worked in certain instances in the past. Including at KU.

The only thing that makes me nervous that they might is them forcing us to label Gassnola an agent/booster. Still, most cases where a school bacated wins/banners are when the school was directly involved with the violation or the agreements and benefits from agents/boosters happened while the player was playing in college.

I think KU should be fine but the ncaa going outrageously overboard on SDS makes me less confident of that.

Don Davis was also a booster. No wins vacated.

Jesse Newell's article from yesterday's KC Star makes me feel a lot better and addresses the exact thing that makes me quesy about Gassnola's labeling as a booster/agent.

Https://www.kansascity.com/sports/colle ... 523845.htm

Also, I didnt realize that DeSousa's appeal would be heard by the Division I Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee, a group of school and conference employees who aren't NCAA employees. I assumed wrongly that it would be some other portion of the ncaa. So that's a relief.