Robert f Kennedy jr

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... n-hearing/

the term “useful idiot” comes to mind
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:19 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:00 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:27 pm

I would note also that schools being daycares, ERs being primary care facilities, and so on...these things are the inevitable result of cutting off social programs at the knees. I believe that is, openly, a pub policy priority.
This is nutty. You can't go all "rOoT cAuSeS!" and then stop a third of the way back to the root.

Why -- say 50 years ago, prior to any social programs later hypothetically "cut off at the knees" -- were schools able to function as educational institutions and not day cares? Why were ER's NOT primary care facilities?

Social programs -- whatever their merit -- are responses to new social needs. If you're going to look for root causes, you can't stop at the programs. You have to look -- at the very least -- at what caused the perception that the programs were necessary. What caused the perceived crisis in the first place?
Stepping out from the thicket a bit - of course what we're talking about is responding to dynamic environments.

Certainly of the big changes we're digesting, some of them are implicated here:

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Sure, some of the issues are implicated there -- although I'd guess fewer than you likely do. Others are implicated elsewhere and earlier. Pat Moynihan identified some of them almost 60 years ago.
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I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
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Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
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JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
Maybe someone should have told that to Trump late in his Presidency?
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your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.
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JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
except for the whole blocking Ukraine’s entrance into NATO thing…
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
By virtue of his name, JFK Jr. is already in the door with dems who aren't aware of what a troubled and misguided person he is. Leaving the party would forsake that and he'd have trouble gaining traction with republicans. Lucky for him, he can always count on a segment of the population with no formal party attachment, who are disaffected and scared, and thereby susceptible to the ignorance he's pedaling, because its contrariness makes them feel powerful and affirmed.

At least, that what some people say...
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it’s not all that different from people believing jenny mccarthy’s nonsense simply because she’s famous and hot
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
Maybe someone should have told that to Trump late in his Presidency?
^^^

I think I speak for every American who was alive in '83, that we were almost unanimously certain Trump would invade Grenada like Reagan did, again.

United States invades Grenada, Oct. 25, 1983
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His narratives have long been Trumpian gifts:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/7 ... l-Purposes

Trump went flat-out Mich when the NY Times pointed out the racial component in death rates early on. It was about access to health care. Send 'em all back to work in jobs without even sick leave. Masks became suddenly bad. Then the vaccine. Worst death rate in the industrialized world for the nation of science, business and technology.
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
Maybe someone should have told that to Trump late in his Presidency?
Well, considering that he won the election, it's kind of a moot point.
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Russia invaded a European nation if you haven't heard. John Birch used to have you hand out pamphlets about this scenario.
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JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:58 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
Maybe someone should have told that to Trump late in his Presidency?
Well, considering that he won the election, it's kind of a moot point.
Trump was planning, apparently, on invading Iran and Venezuela. They had oil.
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KUTradition wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:29 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:46 pm I'm still wondering - how is he a Democrat?
Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
except for the whole blocking Ukraine’s entrance into NATO thing…
I think RFK is right. This is a setup for a land war with Russia. Next step, WWWIII. Welcome to the beginning of the end.
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Sparko wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:58 pm
Russia invaded a European nation if you haven't heard. John Birch used to have you hand out pamphlets about this scenario.
Not our concern.
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JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:00 pm
Sparko wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:58 pm
Russia invaded a European nation if you haven't heard. John Birch used to have you hand out pamphlets about this scenario.
Not our concern.
Russia kind of counted on your lack of perspicacity and empathy.

Hitler was just a guy with a dream to the GOP any more.
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Sparko wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:03 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:00 pm
Sparko wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:58 pm

Russia invaded a European nation if you haven't heard. John Birch used to have you hand out pamphlets about this scenario.
Not our concern.
Russia kind of counted on your lack of perspicacity and empathy.

Hitler was just a guy with a dream to the GOP any more.
You guys play the Hitler card so much that it has lost all meaning. Truly.
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JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:58 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
Maybe someone should have told that to Trump late in his Presidency?
Well, considering that he won the election, it's kind of a moot point.
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JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:59 pm
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:29 pm
JKLivin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Who? Biden the warmonger?

This is the strategy when you know you can’t win the next election. Jump into a war and hope people will stick with you through it.
except for the whole blocking Ukraine’s entrance into NATO thing…
I think RFK is right. This is a setup for a land war with Russia. Next step, WWWIII. Welcome to the beginning of the end.
Make sure you tell that to your students and patients. ;)
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:48 am
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