Child sex trafficking

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JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:03 am

Satanist pedophile child traffickers telling you that they're not Satanist pedophile child traffickers, but that those who accuse them of being Satanist pedophile child traffickers are actually the Satanist pedophile child traffickers.

Sounds about right. John 8:44-45.
Congrats on tying yourself up in your own pretzel logic. Do you even know what point you were trying to make?

It's a movie made to exploit the right's current hysteria level so that rich people can make even more money. Then there is the lower level of parasites that generate social media content to spoon feed the hysterics to the right over and over so they can leech some money off the revenue stream as it flows past them.
That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.
I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:44 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am

Congrats on tying yourself up in your own pretzel logic. Do you even know what point you were trying to make?

It's a movie made to exploit the right's current hysteria level so that rich people can make even more money. Then there is the lower level of parasites that generate social media content to spoon feed the hysterics to the right over and over so they can leech some money off the revenue stream as it flows past them.
That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.
I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.
What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.
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JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:49 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:44 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm

That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.
I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.
What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.
Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:14 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:49 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:44 pm

I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.
What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.
Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.
Thank God people like you are around to determine what all of us morons should and should not see and hear. It would be a shame if people couldn't focus on all of the causes that our intellectual and moral superiors deem important or if they gave their money to a cause that you deemed unworthy. It's almost as if certain people should just control the way the rest of us think, use our time, and spend our money. There's a name for that . . .right on the tip of my tongue . . .
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I'll help you out, it's called therapy.
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JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:34 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:14 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:49 pm

What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.
Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.
Thank God people like you are around to determine what all of us morons should and should not see and hear. It would be a shame if people couldn't focus on all of the causes that our intellectual and moral superiors deem important or if they gave their money to a cause that you deemed unworthy. It's almost as if certain people should just control the way the rest of us think, use our time, and spend our money. There's a name for that . . .right on the tip of my tongue . . .
Why go from 0-60 in 2.8 seconds?

No one is telling you what you can or can't see or hear. Or how you should think, use your time or spend your money.

But yeah, if you say something dumb like you'll simply take grifters, fabulists, hucksters and open conspiracists at their word vis a vis their motivations in what is a moneymaking enterprise (possibly among other things)...getting called out for the silliness should not be a surprise.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:41 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:34 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:14 pm

Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.
Thank God people like you are around to determine what all of us morons should and should not see and hear. It would be a shame if people couldn't focus on all of the causes that our intellectual and moral superiors deem important or if they gave their money to a cause that you deemed unworthy. It's almost as if certain people should just control the way the rest of us think, use our time, and spend our money. There's a name for that . . .right on the tip of my tongue . . .
Why go from 0-60 in 2.8 seconds?

No one is telling you what you can or can't see or hear. Or how you should think, use your time or spend your money.

But yeah, if you say something dumb like you'll simply take grifters, fabulists, hucksters and open conspiracists at their word vis a vis their motivations in what is a moneymaking enterprise (possibly among other things)...getting called out for the silliness should not be a surprise.
Correction: What YOU deem to be silliness. The arrogance of assuming that YOUR view of things is, without question, the ONLY valid one was a major driver for Trump 1 and why Trump 2 is gaining momentum. Maybe dial it back a notch or two is all I'm saying.
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I'm sorry, taking grifters, fabulists, hucksters and open conspiracists at their word vis a vis their motivations in what is a moneymaking enterprise (possibly among other things) is objectively silly. Silly in black and white.

Has nothing to do with party affiliation; RFK Jr. is running as a Democrat and, being a noted fabulist and open conspiracist, he's getting shredded by Democrats vis a vis his motivations.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:51 pm I'm sorry, taking grifters, fabulists, hucksters and open conspiracists at their word vis a vis their motivations in what is a moneymaking enterprise (possibly among other things) is objectively silly. Silly in black and white.

Has nothing to do with party affiliation; RFK Jr. is running as a Democrat and, being a noted fabulist and open conspiracist, he's getting shredded by Democrats vis a vis his motivations.
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the gullible throwing a tantrum because they’re being called gullible

lol
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:01 pm the gullible throwing a tantrum because they’re being called gullible

lol
The arrogant doubling down on their arrogance because they’re being called out on their arrogance.

lol, indeed.
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i guess you aren’t as smart as i thought…just formally educated (in theology)
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JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:43 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:01 pm the gullible throwing a tantrum because they’re being called gullible

lol
The arrogant doubling down on their arrogance because they’re being called out on their arrogance.

lol, indeed.
If you want to buy snake oil, have at it.

But you also came here to defend the stated motivations of the guy selling snake oil.

No thanks!
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:47 pm i guess you aren’t as smart as i thought…just formally educated (in psychology)
FYP
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JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am
JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:03 am

Satanist pedophile child traffickers telling you that they're not Satanist pedophile child traffickers, but that those who accuse them of being Satanist pedophile child traffickers are actually the Satanist pedophile child traffickers.

Sounds about right. John 8:44-45.
Congrats on tying yourself up in your own pretzel logic. Do you even know what point you were trying to make?

It's a movie made to exploit the right's current hysteria level so that rich people can make even more money. Then there is the lower level of parasites that generate social media content to spoon feed the hysterics to the right over and over so they can leech some money off the revenue stream as it flows past them.
That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.
"Risked a great deal..." oh, boy, do tell. Wait, wait, wait, let me put a guess out there first. They are shining a light on some giant cabal that would have had them executed if it wasn't for the success of the movie that made them so famous that now they don't dare kill them for fear of being exposed.

Something along those lines? See, I can write made-for-TV-movie caliber plot lines, too.
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JKLivin wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:47 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:47 pm i guess you aren’t as smart as i thought…just formally educated (in psychology)
FYP
You're the walking definition of "there's a difference between intelligent and smart."
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It's literally a movie based on real events, to bring awareness to child sex trafficking

The fact the left is so desperately trying to discreditct the movie, is grotesque
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And we know a couple posters here that will argue to the ends of the earth with whatever argument the left tells them. Instead of just owning up on the issue
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"Child sex trafficking is bad"

How in the fuck is that controversial
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