It’s to keep others out of the waters, but more importantly the conflict. Shit is going to be bad enough if limited to the present participants.
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Speaking of.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17132 ... PzNG4aOfKQ
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17132 ... PzNG4aOfKQ
Iran reportedly sent a U.N. Envoy to Israel on Saturday stating that they do not wish for further Escalation in the Conflict, but that they would be forced to Intervene if Israel continues its Operation against Gaza or launches an Invasion of the Strip.
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"We don't want to escalate...but we're gonna escalate. K?"
Imjustheretohelpyoubuycrypto
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Imagine if Trump had not compromised our war plans in just this scenario?
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France fascinates me on this subject. Obviously, it has its own Algerian/North African Muslim issues (the banlieues, among other things), but it is also home to a politically well-connected Persian/Iranian expat community. That community is not as big as Germany's or ours or even Canada's, but it's far more politically tuned in, and many are Pahlavi-connected.
Also, France is where Khomeini lived in exile.
It may not seem like much to most of us, but I'd imagine French antagonism is rather deeply unwelcome in Tehran.
Imjustheretohelpyoubuycrypto
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"human rights groups" HRW and Amnesty International just blatantly lying about white phosphorus.
https://x.com/Marien__R/status/1713083773510697462?s=20
https://x.com/Marien__R/status/1713083773510697462?s=20
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MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:48 am
your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.
your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.
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Germany's anti-discrimination agency quits X over anti-minority posts
...Germany’s Federal Anti-Discrimination Agency said it would close its account on social media platform X, formerly Twitter, because of increasing intolerance of minorities expressed by users on the site, and urged other bodies to follow suit.
The rapid spread of misleading claims and doctored images in the aftermath of a deadly rampage by Hamas gunmen in Israel over the weekend has put renewed focus on Elon Musk’s platform, which most recently drew the ire of the European Union.
Due to a surge in racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, trans and queer hostility and other misanthropic content, “X is no longer a sustainable environment for a public agency”, the agency’s commissioner, Ferda Ataman, said in a statement.[/b]
German government officials have so far resisted calls to quit X, saying there was no substitute channel at present through which leaders like Chancellor Olaf Scholz are able to reach a broad swathe of the public online...
...Germany’s Federal Anti-Discrimination Agency said it would close its account on social media platform X, formerly Twitter, because of increasing intolerance of minorities expressed by users on the site, and urged other bodies to follow suit.
The rapid spread of misleading claims and doctored images in the aftermath of a deadly rampage by Hamas gunmen in Israel over the weekend has put renewed focus on Elon Musk’s platform, which most recently drew the ire of the European Union.
Due to a surge in racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, trans and queer hostility and other misanthropic content, “X is no longer a sustainable environment for a public agency”, the agency’s commissioner, Ferda Ataman, said in a statement.[/b]
German government officials have so far resisted calls to quit X, saying there was no substitute channel at present through which leaders like Chancellor Olaf Scholz are able to reach a broad swathe of the public online...
“We are living through a revolt against the future. The future will prevail.”
Anand Giridharadas
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FWIW they have turned the water back on.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:18 am https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyUzfVqv ... _copy_link
Hamas won the game of chicken... Because for Israel the Palestinian lives aren't a "game". And for Hamas they are.
(Context - Israel said they'd turn it on if the hostages were returned. Hamas would rather see Palestinians die than return the hostages.)
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If I understand right, part of the goal was to turn on the water in southern Gaza, to get non-combatants to move that direction.mjl2 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:00 amFWIW they have turned the water back on.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:18 am https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyUzfVqv ... _copy_link
Hamas won the game of chicken... Because for Israel the Palestinian lives aren't a "game". And for Hamas they are.
(Context - Israel said they'd turn it on if the hostages were returned. Hamas would rather see Palestinians die than return the hostages.)
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the electricity demands seem truly bizarre
hamas using the power grid to communicate and fire their rockets
those same rockets, apparently, are the ones that damaged the power grid
and now there’s outcry that Israel won’t fix the power grid to, in essence, enable hamas?
hamas using the power grid to communicate and fire their rockets
those same rockets, apparently, are the ones that damaged the power grid
and now there’s outcry that Israel won’t fix the power grid to, in essence, enable hamas?
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Gutter's Instagram link a few posts above makes an effective, difficult to refute under the circumstances, "electricity" argument, imo.
“We are living through a revolt against the future. The future will prevail.”
Anand Giridharadas
Anand Giridharadas
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Preparing weapons can be power intensive.
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You can't because quadcopters dropping grenades are the next phase of the battle
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Russia financed the attack thru their Garantex cryptocurrency.
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I saw reports about that a couple days ago. I’m in wait-and-see on it - a true link between the Putin regime and Hamas here would have explosive implications, so I hope the reporting on this matter (going forward) is cautious, detailed and precise.
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I have no comment on this. I am simply just sharing it.
Before I read his "blog" post, I read this from him.....
I've heard this sentiment from way too many of my Jewish friends and family and haven't seen anybody else write it out yet. Please understand this wasn't written in anger.
Why you might have lost all your Jewish friends this week and didn’t even know it.
October 13, 2023Josh Gilman
I do not want to be writing this article. I’ve been waiting for someone else to write it. But, nobody else has, and somebody needs to say this.
You might have lost every last one of your Jewish friends this week, and you have no idea why. Please be patient with me as I try to explain. I’m going to be explaining things that are totally foreign to you. I didn’t even know I felt and thought this way until a couple of days ago myself.
When you are Jewish, you are always aware that there is a large population in the world that wants to kill you.
Even if they aren’t trying now, you read history and you see that every few generations, at the very least, some group tries to kill all or at least a lot of Jewish people.
We may like your posts that say “never again,” but we never fully believe it.
On Saturday, October 7th, we were reminded that we were right not to.
More Jews died in one day than any day since the Holocaust. And the reality is that while we felt shock, we didn’t necessarily feel surprise.
When my sisters were quite young, they used to play “hiding from the Nazis.” This wasn’t hide and seek; they would just pick a place to hide, under a couch, behind a freezer, and just lie still for hours. Once, they hid in our van for way too long, and my parents couldn’t find them, and they got in a lot of trouble.
They were genuinely “playing”; it was truly a game to them. But it’s just to hammer home the point that Jewish children grow up with the Holocaust being a part of our history and an intrinsic understanding that at some point, we may need to hide again.
Over the past few years, as the world in general has just gotten crazier than ever, it has become popular to post things like “If you think you would have been one of the ones who hid Jews in WWII but are afraid of speaking up about _____, you wouldn’t have been.”
It’s honestly a generally fair assessment because if you aren’t the kind of person who can handle criticism for a non-conventional belief of any sort, you surely aren’t the kind of person who would risk the Gestapo knocking on your door for hiding people. I’ve seen so many posts like this over the past 2 years.
But… here is what your Jewish friends are wondering right now. So, why didn’t you post… this time?
And that’s not an accusatory, WHY DIDN’T YOU POST!? It’s a genuine question. Because they need to know the answer.
Maybe you didn’t post something because you are ignorant about what took place.
Maybe you didn’t say something to your Jewish friends because you truly don’t understand that they consider every slaughtered baby, raped girl, and murdered man to be their own family.
Maybe you are so horrified by it all that you truly don’t know what words to say.
Maybe you are still wondering what to say.
Well, it breaks my heart to tell you what your Jewish friends are wondering.
They are wondering if you are safe.
They are seeing many others cave to the propaganda, the vitriol from the Hamas apologists; they are seeing the pro-Hamas protests and the threats to the world, and they are wondering if you are too afraid to speak.
And they know that if you are too afraid to speak, then you would be too afraid to hide them.
Did you know that that is a category of friend that every Jewish person has in their mind? Who would I run to? Who would hide me?
We don’t wonder if; we wonder when. Because we know that whether it is indeed us, or whether it is our brothers and sisters in Israel, or in France, or in Pittsburgh, it will happen again somewhere.
It wasn’t until this last weekend that I realized that I have lived my whole life treating the world as guilty until proven innocent. That until you are proven safe to me, I hold you in mild suspicion. I didn’t even realize that I’ve always done this.
When an Arabic barber is trimming my beard with a sharp blade and comments on my complexion and says “are you Arabic?” I don’t answer truthfully. I say that my grandfather was from Lithuania. (He was; it’s not a lie, it’s just not the truth.)
When a stranger says “what is your family background,” I almost always change the subject.
Dear friends who may feel this blog is written to you. I am not saying I fear you or that I don’t love you. I’m just trying to let you know that unless you have proven that you will stand with me, I will not run to your home if they come for me and my family.
I am also not saying that silence is support. I do not believe that everyone who hasn’t posted support for the Jewish people and for Israel is complicit. But… I am not totally sure if you are safe. And none of your other Jewish friends are sure either.
I’m sure this offends you. How unfair to fail an audition you didn’t know you were having.
And yes, it is unfair.
But I’m sorry to say your Jewish friends aren’t wondering about fairness right now. They are only wondering about safety.
This post might seem angry; I’m not. I’m just sad. Sad for everything that has happened, sad for the friends I’ve heard from who haven’t heard from a single non-Jewish friend with a message of love and support.
But here’s the other thing: it just takes one. One message, one post. The greatest soothing to my soul this past week has been seeing friends and old colleagues post notes of support. It truly means the world. It’s not too late.
But consider this carefully, because it is not a game. If you read this and choose to reach out, choose to take a stand publicly. Choose to put your own reputation on the line and maybe even take some of the hatred toward the Jewish people and Israel for yourself. If you do this, we may believe you.
Do not take this lightly. The history of the Jewish people is not a light one. But it is filled with joy. Our victories have always risen above our tragedies. It is a history of suffering but overcoming suffering.
And throughout history, there have always been those who stand with us. From the Egyptians who joined the Israelites, following the pillar of fire and pillar of cloud, to the hundreds of thousands of gentiles who put their lives on the line to hide Jews in Europe during the Second World War.
There is a song we like to sing: Am Y’Israel Chai. “The people of Israel live.”
We always will. Many have tried to wipe us out. And yet we live.
I started this article explaining our pain, but I end it with a simple invitation to join us in our life. It means the world when you do.
Before I read his "blog" post, I read this from him.....
I've heard this sentiment from way too many of my Jewish friends and family and haven't seen anybody else write it out yet. Please understand this wasn't written in anger.
Why you might have lost all your Jewish friends this week and didn’t even know it.
October 13, 2023Josh Gilman
I do not want to be writing this article. I’ve been waiting for someone else to write it. But, nobody else has, and somebody needs to say this.
You might have lost every last one of your Jewish friends this week, and you have no idea why. Please be patient with me as I try to explain. I’m going to be explaining things that are totally foreign to you. I didn’t even know I felt and thought this way until a couple of days ago myself.
When you are Jewish, you are always aware that there is a large population in the world that wants to kill you.
Even if they aren’t trying now, you read history and you see that every few generations, at the very least, some group tries to kill all or at least a lot of Jewish people.
We may like your posts that say “never again,” but we never fully believe it.
On Saturday, October 7th, we were reminded that we were right not to.
More Jews died in one day than any day since the Holocaust. And the reality is that while we felt shock, we didn’t necessarily feel surprise.
When my sisters were quite young, they used to play “hiding from the Nazis.” This wasn’t hide and seek; they would just pick a place to hide, under a couch, behind a freezer, and just lie still for hours. Once, they hid in our van for way too long, and my parents couldn’t find them, and they got in a lot of trouble.
They were genuinely “playing”; it was truly a game to them. But it’s just to hammer home the point that Jewish children grow up with the Holocaust being a part of our history and an intrinsic understanding that at some point, we may need to hide again.
Over the past few years, as the world in general has just gotten crazier than ever, it has become popular to post things like “If you think you would have been one of the ones who hid Jews in WWII but are afraid of speaking up about _____, you wouldn’t have been.”
It’s honestly a generally fair assessment because if you aren’t the kind of person who can handle criticism for a non-conventional belief of any sort, you surely aren’t the kind of person who would risk the Gestapo knocking on your door for hiding people. I’ve seen so many posts like this over the past 2 years.
But… here is what your Jewish friends are wondering right now. So, why didn’t you post… this time?
And that’s not an accusatory, WHY DIDN’T YOU POST!? It’s a genuine question. Because they need to know the answer.
Maybe you didn’t post something because you are ignorant about what took place.
Maybe you didn’t say something to your Jewish friends because you truly don’t understand that they consider every slaughtered baby, raped girl, and murdered man to be their own family.
Maybe you are so horrified by it all that you truly don’t know what words to say.
Maybe you are still wondering what to say.
Well, it breaks my heart to tell you what your Jewish friends are wondering.
They are wondering if you are safe.
They are seeing many others cave to the propaganda, the vitriol from the Hamas apologists; they are seeing the pro-Hamas protests and the threats to the world, and they are wondering if you are too afraid to speak.
And they know that if you are too afraid to speak, then you would be too afraid to hide them.
Did you know that that is a category of friend that every Jewish person has in their mind? Who would I run to? Who would hide me?
We don’t wonder if; we wonder when. Because we know that whether it is indeed us, or whether it is our brothers and sisters in Israel, or in France, or in Pittsburgh, it will happen again somewhere.
It wasn’t until this last weekend that I realized that I have lived my whole life treating the world as guilty until proven innocent. That until you are proven safe to me, I hold you in mild suspicion. I didn’t even realize that I’ve always done this.
When an Arabic barber is trimming my beard with a sharp blade and comments on my complexion and says “are you Arabic?” I don’t answer truthfully. I say that my grandfather was from Lithuania. (He was; it’s not a lie, it’s just not the truth.)
When a stranger says “what is your family background,” I almost always change the subject.
Dear friends who may feel this blog is written to you. I am not saying I fear you or that I don’t love you. I’m just trying to let you know that unless you have proven that you will stand with me, I will not run to your home if they come for me and my family.
I am also not saying that silence is support. I do not believe that everyone who hasn’t posted support for the Jewish people and for Israel is complicit. But… I am not totally sure if you are safe. And none of your other Jewish friends are sure either.
I’m sure this offends you. How unfair to fail an audition you didn’t know you were having.
And yes, it is unfair.
But I’m sorry to say your Jewish friends aren’t wondering about fairness right now. They are only wondering about safety.
This post might seem angry; I’m not. I’m just sad. Sad for everything that has happened, sad for the friends I’ve heard from who haven’t heard from a single non-Jewish friend with a message of love and support.
But here’s the other thing: it just takes one. One message, one post. The greatest soothing to my soul this past week has been seeing friends and old colleagues post notes of support. It truly means the world. It’s not too late.
But consider this carefully, because it is not a game. If you read this and choose to reach out, choose to take a stand publicly. Choose to put your own reputation on the line and maybe even take some of the hatred toward the Jewish people and Israel for yourself. If you do this, we may believe you.
Do not take this lightly. The history of the Jewish people is not a light one. But it is filled with joy. Our victories have always risen above our tragedies. It is a history of suffering but overcoming suffering.
And throughout history, there have always been those who stand with us. From the Egyptians who joined the Israelites, following the pillar of fire and pillar of cloud, to the hundreds of thousands of gentiles who put their lives on the line to hide Jews in Europe during the Second World War.
There is a song we like to sing: Am Y’Israel Chai. “The people of Israel live.”
We always will. Many have tried to wipe us out. And yet we live.
I started this article explaining our pain, but I end it with a simple invitation to join us in our life. It means the world when you do.
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:48 am
your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.
your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.
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Check out her lovely earrings.....
https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1713428633187160572
"Hello my friend, I am a member of Hamas.... Here, have some water, and may I please have a banana"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GH2xnqtGjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_45HVw5pEA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMejmg2T6z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfc5fXjaac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_45HVw5pEA8
https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1713428633187160572
"Hello my friend, I am a member of Hamas.... Here, have some water, and may I please have a banana"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GH2xnqtGjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_45HVw5pEA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMejmg2T6z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfc5fXjaac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_45HVw5pEA8
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:48 am
your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.
your posting history on this this site alone. says you should not be calling other people stupid.