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jhawks99 wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:55 am Joe Biden drove over that bridge, so there ya go.
Also took the train over its imaginary train tracks.
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KUTradition wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:57 am the dots are there to connect, if you choose to see them
most of the cuck sheeple are not brave enough to go full fuckwit and connect those dots
I saw the worst minds of my generation empowered by madness, bloated farcical naked,
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:56 am
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:55 am Joe Biden drove over that bridge, so there ya go.
Also took the train over its imaginary train tracks.
Who among us hasn't ridden the imaginary train?
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i think i can, i think i can…
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Get your government hands off my billion dollar infratructure rebuilding projects!
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TDub wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:59 pm
Sparko wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:47 pm Imagine if tug boats were mandated. By regulations.
we are so overegulated. The level of bullshit within federal agencies is nauseating. The government is too damn big to have its hand in everything and be efficient. So so so many wasted tax dollars in the turtle speed beuracratic process that could go elsewhere. Like...healthcare for one.
It’s hard, right?

I think we are simultaneously overregulated in form (what you describe well as “the level of bullshit within federal agencies”) and, probably resultingly, underregulated in substance (think, for example, of letting industries be their own oversight).

My preference would be for the government to do fewer things, but to do them well.
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jfish26 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:11 am
TDub wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:59 pm
Sparko wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:47 pm Imagine if tug boats were mandated. By regulations.
we are so overegulated. The level of bullshit within federal agencies is nauseating. The government is too damn big to have its hand in everything and be efficient. So so so many wasted tax dollars in the turtle speed beuracratic process that could go elsewhere. Like...healthcare for one.
It’s hard, right?

I think we are simultaneously overregulated in form (what you describe well as “the level of bullshit within federal agencies”) and, probably resultingly, underregulated in substance (think, for example, of letting industries be their own oversight).

My preference would be for the government to do fewer things, but to do them well.
agreed, but I don't know if that's possible. Even at thr local level there are so many layers of paper pushing and wasted time and money.

Even in my small town (and Seattle was worse for comparison). One small example. For me to get a permit to relocate a bathroom goes through like 7 people. I know most of them. 1 of them has construction knowledge and actually reviews the plans. The other 6 are there collecting a check and doing essentially nothing. They don't know what is required for a bathroom, they have no clue But, by God, we're paying them to be there at that desk. A review that could happen in a day sometimes takes 3 weeks. It'd absurd.

And, it's gonna get worse because the 1 guy that actually knows shit just got fed up with the bullshit and walked away. They srent going to get anyone to replace his knowledge, and he was the only one that knew how to review plans in the whole department. So, the process stopped completely this week and they have quit issuing permits *wait what? thats fucking bullshit....I know.


Now, multiply that times every small town and big town on America and then add layers of state and federal oversight and paper pushing on top of that.

Its all ridiculous. We need to skim the fat.
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I wonder whether there’s middle ground is between a small town bathroom relocation permit bureaucracy like “we need 7 people to sign off on this,” and a big corporate shipping bureaucracy like “oh well we understand these common sense safety protocols are just not profitable enough so let’s just kinda shrug it all off for the sake of this quarter”
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DCHawk1 wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:00 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:58 pm i’m surprised there isn’t a requirement that they accompany until clear of things like bridges

hindsight, i guess
As I understand it, that used to be SOP. Newer technologies generally make that unnecessary -- until the tech fails, that is.
Commercial vessels traversing most “inland” waterways are required to have pilots (experts in navigating local waters) and tugs. In the Panama Canal the tugs are land based electric locomotives. For travel inside SF Bay the harbor pilot boards vessels about 5 miles outside the Golden Gate, and tugs accompany the vessels although they are rarely under tow.

These are “regulations” not unlike the ones mandating that cars stop at red lights.
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Humans, as evidenced again and again in the gun thread, cannot be counted on to do the right thing en masse. Regulations are a means of oversight. We chafe at such limitations, but then bridges are knocked out. Houses burn down, and restaurants kill us.
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zsn wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:12 pm These are “regulations” not unlike the ones mandating that cars stop at red lights.
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There will be no body doubles dirty dancing. There are regulations and then there is Baylor.
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