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[NDballer13]

Why would you not be able to include 1 and dones when guys like Wiggins and Jackson played just as big a factor in keeping it alive?

I agree with you, but, weirdly, Elijah played a huge role in keeping it alive. More than a lot of the big names out there.

Absolutely, he did. Can't be a 2 year starter, playing 30 minutes, and not play a huge role in it. I just don't think he's even close to making an "all-streak" team. He was never more than option #3 for any team he was on.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Why would you not be able to include 1 and dones when guys like Wiggins and Jackson played just as big a factor in keeping it alive?

I agree with you, but, weirdly, Elijah played a huge role in keeping it alive. More than a lot of the big names out there.

Absolutely, he did. Can't be a 2 year starter, playing 30 minutes, and not play a huge role in it. I just don't think he's even close to making an "all-streak" team. He was never more than option #3 for any team he was on.

Well, without the "blackout," the streak was over.

[PhDhawk]

RussRob
Selden
McLemore
Trob
Aldrich

[Deleted User 75]

All NBA of the streak is easy

Mario
Oubre
Wiggins
Marcus
Embiid

[PhDhawk]

All NBA of the streak is easy

Mario
Oubre
Wiggins
Marcus
Embiid

It should be, but you got the wrong Morris.

Pretty Serviceable team.

[NDballer13]

I agree with you, but, weirdly, Elijah played a huge role in keeping it alive. More than a lot of the big names out there.

Absolutely, he did. Can't be a 2 year starter, playing 30 minutes, and not play a huge role in it. I just don't think he's even close to making an "all-streak" team. He was never more than option #3 for any team he was on.

Well, without the "blackout," the streak was over.

Well, how many games can we nitpick over the years and say without so and so's performance in this specific game, the streak is over.

[PhDhawk]

we took Ucla out of the record books for conference titles.

Let's go for their consecutive national title mark.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Absolutely, he did. Can't be a 2 year starter, playing 30 minutes, and not play a huge role in it. I just don't think he's even close to making an "all-streak" team. He was never more than option #3 for any team he was on.

Well, without the "blackout," the streak was over.

Well, how many games can we nitpick over the years and say without so and so's performance in this specific game, the streak is over.

Probably a few, but only in years of ties. Just the timing of the game, and the fact that we were down by so much and seemed way out of the game. Then Elijah happened.

Granted, we lost our last game that year to Baylor, so we probably would have still been OK if the Baylor game meant a tie or no tie. But, I honestly can't think of a single performance that was more tied to the conference outcome than that one. ISU/KSU fans still get pissed about it. lol.

[NDballer13]

Weatherwax, lol....

[jfish26]

Rush is better suited at the 3 in college.
He's slower than Chalmers and couldn't dribble.
I like him off the bench to fill roles.

He played the 3, but I wouldn't really say he was better suited for one of the other. If you had a guy like Jackson at the 3, Rush would be a fantastic option at the 2. Not to mention the length that team would have defensively.

Rush can’t dribble.

[Cascadia]

Offense:
Graham's final season he shot 40% from the field and from 3.
Chalmers final season he shot 52% and 47% from 3.

Defense:
SPG.
NBA scouting reports when they first came out.
4th place in steals per game in the ENTIRE NBA one season.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle. ... ID=1522282
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle. ... ID=1521662

Steals tell...as must appeal to you...only a small part of the story.

Chalmers wasn't even the best defensive player in his own fucking backcourt (in fact he was probably third).

I agree, but the best 3 perimeter defender in the Self era were all on that 08 team. I need a 2 guard that is a 3 and D guy. So Mario

[kubandalum]

I don't need Vonte as a distributor -- I have BIFM.
I need an off the ball shooter and it's a plus that he's also a better defender.
Hence Chalmers.

If that's your basis for picking that position, I'd take Rush over both of them.

Self's best teams had 2 guys who could distribute. Chalmers/Robinson/Collins. Collins/Taylor.
Mason/Graham.

Would you include Taylor/Johnson in that list?

[ousdahl]

Doesn’t Mario hold one or a few steals records at KU?

That was yet another part of why that team was so dominant. Instead of another team even getting to keep up, we were taking away possessions and going on runs.

[ousdahl]

And while I love Devonte, man did that team have such a thin margin for error.

[Mjl]

Chalmers was the better defender by metrics/reviews/awards but you can argue that if you want, I certainly won't listen to that hogwash.

Than Rush? That's a joke. He regularly guarded the other teams' worst offensive players. It allowed him to be aggressive and grab steals. The steal numbers got him on the all D team because voters look at the stats. Sliding your feet and challenging shots isn't sexy, so Rush didn't get the stats or accolades, but any fan of that team knew Rush was the better defender and it isn't close.

[pdub]

Nah, than Vonte.
I think Rush was slightly better than Chalmers.

[Deleted User 104]

All of those guys (Rush, Chalmers, Robinson, Arthur, Wright) were excellent defenders. I miss those guys.

[pdub]

And while I agree Rush > Chalmers on D I don’t think voters just voted on steals...Big 12 awards are voted on by coaches—they know basketball. And Chalmers was tenacious.

[Deleted User 104]

Was just thinking about how the 2012 team had 6 losses before the tournament began. If only our guys this year could play defense like those guys did. I hope we are not ranked preseason no.1 again for a while -- it seems to be horrible luck for us.

[pdub]

Lobster you are an odd crustacean sometimes.