Charges

[KUTradition]

i wonder what the cost to tax payers would be per hour

[jhawks99]

Wonder if the judge really means it. This time.

[Sparko]

i wonder what the cost to tax payers would be per hour

Worth every penny until he is no longer a threat.

[ousdahl]

Wonder if the judge really means it. This time.

^^^

Right?!

Why does Trump continue to get such a long leash? Who else can get away with violating gag orders TEN times?

[Shirley]

Wonder if the judge really means it. This time.

^^^

Right?!

Why does Trump continue to get such a long leash? Who else can get away with violating gag orders TEN times?

Not that I think this is the primary impediment, but it's a logistical nightmare, what with his secret service detail, etc., etc. Plus, for multiple reasons no judge wants to be the one and only person who has ever sent a former president to jail, not to mention the precedent it creates.

Separate from that, like fascists before him, it will feed Trump's victimization/grievance meme. "I'm taking a bullet but I'm willing to do it for you because the Dems have weaponized the Justice Department, the Deep State is out to get us with their immigration replacement plan, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah."

Wash, rinse, repeat, ad nauseam.

[jfish26]

Wonder if the judge really means it. This time.

^^^

Right?!

Why does Trump continue to get such a long leash? Who else can get away with violating gag orders TEN times?

Not that I think this is the primary impediment, but it's a logistical nightmare, what with his secret service detail, etc., etc. Plus, for multiple reasons no judge wants to be the one and only person who has ever sent a former president to jail, not to mention the precedent it creates.

Separate from that, like fascists before him, it will feed Trump's victimization/grievance meme. "I'm taking a bullet but I'm willing to do it for you because the Dems have weaponized the Justice Department, the Deep State is out to get us with their immigration replacement plan, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah."

Wash, rinse, repeat, ad nauseam.

This is all true.

But so is this: letting all of this stuff result in applying the law differently to Trump than to other defendants is, itself, corrosive to the rule of law.

Dead horse, but - this is what's so heartbreaking over 14A-3 getting swept away by a "conservative" Court. The whole POINT of it was to cover the exact scenario where a traitorous madman has enough people under his spell to have a shot at being elected to office again.

Our forebears tried to protect us, and we pissed on the Constitution and all who've died for it.

[ousdahl]

”Mr. Trump its important you understand the last thing I want to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States and possibly the next president as well," Judge Juan Merchan says.”

[ousdahl]

I kinda wonder if both pubs and dems have some strategic desire to keep Trump around and just viable enough, in some “useful idiot” kinda way.

[Shirley]

Whoa, Stormy is going to testify this morning. Wish there was video.

[Shirley]

I kinda wonder if both Xi and Putin have some strategic desire to keep Trump around and just viable enough, in some “useful idiot” kinda way.

Fixed.

[jhawks99]

Whoa, Stormy is going to testify this morning. Wish there was video.

She will probably wear clothes.

[Shirley]

Whoa, Stormy is going to testify this morning. Wish there was video.

She will probably wear clothes.

99 with the #buzzkill

[Shirley]

Trump posted this earlier this morning, left it up for ~ 30 minutes, then deleted it:

[ousdahl]

I kinda wonder if both Xi and Putin have some strategic desire to keep Trump around and just viable enough, in some “useful idiot” kinda way.

Fixed.

dangit.

I thought more pubs in the sense they don't have anyone else among the GOP with the kind of cult-of-personality celebrity star appeal who can rile up the folks at the mall quite like Trump

and dems in the sense they view Trump as easier to defeat than some potential other candidate

but if there's validity to your imperial boogeymen theory, it makes it even more mind boggling that no American authorities have actually brought the hammer down on Trump yet

[ousdahl]

but, largely related to the imperial boogeymen thing, and this thread generally...I found this tweeter thread interesting:


https://x.com/SethAbramson/status/1787543910509666332

[jfish26]

Trump posted this earlier this morning, left it up for ~ 30 minutes, then deleted it:

Stormy weather.

[jfish26]

I kinda wonder if both Xi and Putin have some strategic desire to keep Trump around and just viable enough, in some “useful idiot” kinda way.

Fixed.

dangit.

I thought more pubs in the sense they don't have anyone else among the GOP with the kind of cult-of-personality celebrity star appeal who can rile up the folks at the mall quite like Trump

and dems in the sense they view Trump as easier to defeat than some potential other candidate

but if there's validity to your imperial boogeymen theory, it makes it even more mind boggling that no American authorities have actually brought the hammer down on Trump yet

...you might look around, you know, this very thread.

[Shirley]

but, largely related to the imperial boogeymen thing, and this thread generally...I found this tweeter thread interesting:


https://x.com/SethAbramson/status/1787543910509666332

Linking to an author of Seth Abramson's quality helps to rehabilitate your credibility.

This is a brief thread from a NYT-bestselling Trump biographer on what everyone—literally everyone—is missing about the 34 felonies Donald Trump committed to win the 2016 presidential election. This will change how you understand the 2016 election cycle.

[Shirley]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading back through this thread, I can't find anywhere that Mich or 99 deny having had a relationship with Stormy Daniels. On the other hand, Donald Trump does.

Coincidence?

[jfish26]

but, largely related to the imperial boogeymen thing, and this thread generally...I found this tweeter thread interesting:


https://x.com/SethAbramson/status/1787543910509666332

Linking to an author of Seth Abramson's quality helps to rehabilitate your credibility.

This is a brief thread from a NYT-bestselling Trump biographer on what everyone—literally everyone—is missing about the 34 felonies Donald Trump committed to win the 2016 presidential election. This will change how you understand the 2016 election cycle.

Should be required reading.