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DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:45 pmAvenatti.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:46 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:41 am
HouseDivided wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:43 pm

Great question. I think it will come down to two variables: 1) how the economy is doing and 2) who the Dems nominate. If the economy is lagging, I think Joe Biden would give Trump a run for his money. If it is somebody like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or that socialist chick with the crazy eyes and no understanding of economics, Trump wins going away.
I don't think there's any scenario where the Dems should run Biden. That's the same broken thinking that had them run Hillary again. Harris and Booker are obviously thirsty. Klobuchar, too. I strongly suspect Kirsten Gillibrand is lying in wait.
The only problem here is that it was the Chairman of the DNC who called her the "future of the party."

Take it up with him.
What percentage of voters know/care about that?
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Mjl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:43 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:46 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:41 am

I don't think there's any scenario where the Dems should run Biden. That's the same broken thinking that had them run Hillary again. Harris and Booker are obviously thirsty. Klobuchar, too. I strongly suspect Kirsten Gillibrand is lying in wait.
The only problem here is that it was the Chairman of the DNC who called her the "future of the party."

Take it up with him.
What percentage of voters know/care about that?
Ignorance: The DNC’s best hope.
“There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.” - Mark Twain
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HouseDivided wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:47 pm
Mjl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:43 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:46 pm

The only problem here is that it was the Chairman of the DNC who called her the "future of the party."

Take it up with him.
What percentage of voters know/care about that?
Ignorance: The DNC’s best hope.
What way did the uneducated vote go in 2016?
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Mjl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:49 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:47 pm
Mjl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:43 pm

What percentage of voters know/care about that?
Ignorance: The DNC’s best hope.
What way did the uneducated vote go in 2016?
Dowdy the Clown.
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"Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980. Two-thirds (67%) of non-college whites backed Trump, compared with just 28% who supported Clinton, resulting in a 39-point advantage for Trump among this group. In 2012 and 2008, non-college whites also preferred the Republican over the Democratic candidate but by less one-sided margins (61%-36% and 58%-40%, respectively)."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... education/
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Mjl wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:06 am "Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980. Two-thirds (67%) of non-college whites backed Trump, compared with just 28% who supported Clinton, resulting in a 39-point advantage for Trump among this group. In 2012 and 2008, non-college whites also preferred the Republican over the Democratic candidate but by less one-sided margins (61%-36% and 58%-40%, respectively)."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... education/
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the question was about education...but you knew that

talk about ignorance. prove your own point?
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such a lovely “representative democracy” we live in...

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DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:11 am meh.

And you're replicating the arguments of a man/ideology that favored not just re-segregation but eugenics as a "cure" for race relations.
Don’t really know what you’re trying to say, but my impressions about Jefferson and other Virginia FFs on the “tyranny” of the northern states that had ended slavery in the late 1800s and that aristocratic slavers like Jefferson feared they would do in the entire nation, comes from reading their own words and other books about those gentlemen. Unfortunately for the nation and especially the South, TJ was a man with a lot of eloquence and very little backbone.

But today, what does that matter? It’s a day to call upon whatever powers one believes in to spare lives.
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TraditionKU wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:23 am the question was about education...but you knew that

talk about ignorance. prove your own point?
My point was that education is irrelevant where that question is concerned. It is just another canard that libs use to make themselves feel (falsely) superior.
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seahawk wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:44 am

But today, what does that matter? It’s a day to cal upon whatever powers one believes in to spare lives.
^^^^

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HouseDivided wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:59 am
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:23 am the question was about education...but you knew that

talk about ignorance. prove your own point?
My point was that education is irrelevant where that question is concerned. It is just another canard that libs use to make themselves feel (falsely) superior.
I get what you're saying and realize it has become a common Republican mindset, but find it really disturbing. Studying, learning, and being surrounded by people with diverse backgrounds and views has become villified and considered brainwashing.
That's frightening and backwards.
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Mjl wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:53 am
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:59 am
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:23 am the question was about education...but you knew that

talk about ignorance. prove your own point?
My point was that education is irrelevant where that question is concerned. It is just another canard that libs use to make themselves feel (falsely) superior.
I get what you're saying and realize it has become a common Republican mindset, but find it really disturbing. Studying, learning, and being surrounded by people with diverse backgrounds and views has become villified and considered brainwashing.
That's frightening and backwards.
To the contrary, I am not vilifying education at all. I make my living as an educator, and wouldn’t put up with the stresses and irritations that go with the work if I did not believe in its value. At the same time, I see and hear evidence on a daily basis that suggests that critical thinking skills, and even common sense, are sorely lacking in most “educated” people today. They simply substitute strident emotionalism and a concoction of poorly-thought-out social justice ideals for real dialogue and logical thought.

If you want to get a glimpse into what I’m talking about, look up Steven Crowder’s “Change my Mind” segment from last week at TCU. He simply asks students to convince him that the “rape culture”really exists. He is calm and polite, and once the kids realize they have no factual arguments, they devolve into a crying, screeching, profane tantrum and demand that campus police have him removed, despite the fact that he is on a public sidewalk and is not harassing anyone. It would be comical, if it were not so sad that these kids’ parents are paying $35,000 a year for their “education”.
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HouseDivided wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:40 am
Mjl wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:53 am
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:59 am

My point was that education is irrelevant where that question is concerned. It is just another canard that libs use to make themselves feel (falsely) superior.
I get what you're saying and realize it has become a common Republican mindset, but find it really disturbing. Studying, learning, and being surrounded by people with diverse backgrounds and views has become villified and considered brainwashing.
That's frightening and backwards.
They simply substitute strident emotionalism and a concoction of poorly-thought-out social justice ideals for real dialogue and logical thought.
No chance that your own bias creates this opinion?
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was thinking about rape culture this morning on my way into work

remembering how, as an undergrad, i heard too many comments bragging about taking advantage of a “wasted chick” the previous night
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locker room talk?
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HouseDivided wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:47 pm
Mjl wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:43 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:46 pm

The only problem here is that it was the Chairman of the DNC who called her the "future of the party."

Take it up with him.
What percentage of voters know/care about that?
Ignorance: The DNC’s best hope.
It seems to be working pretty well for the GOP right now.
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