Pre-season Big12 awards

[PhDhawk]

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle. ... =211775758

Preseason Newcomer of the Year
Dedric Lawson, Kansas, F, 6-9, 235, Jr., Memphis, Tenn. /Hamilton/Memphis

Preseason Freshman of the Year
Quentin Grimes, Kansas, G, 6-5, 210, Fr., The Woodlands, Texas/College Park

Preseason All-Big 12 Team
Dedric Lawson, Kansas, F, 6-9, 235, Jr., Memphis, Tenn. /Hamilton/Memphis

Honorable Mention
Udoka Azubuike (Kansas), Quentin Grimes (Kansas)

[TDub]

Dok will be all big xii if he stays healthy

[PhDhawk]

I think one of those three, Dok, Grimes, or Lawson will be POY.

I think all three will be first or second team.

[jfish26]

An all-state-of-Kansas first team (Lawson/Grimes/Doke/Brown/Wade) is not out of the question.

[Mjl]

An all-state-of-Kansas first team (Lawson/Grimes/Doke/Brown/Wade) is not out of the question.

Konate is almost a sure thing I would think.

[DCHawk1]

Assistant CoY: KT?

[PhDhawk]

An all-state-of-Kansas first team (Lawson/Grimes/Doke/Brown/Wade) is not out of the question.

Konate is almost a sure thing I would think.

He has a better chance at dpoy than first team imho. Dok, Lawson, ans wade all seem more likely to be first team.

Wigginton seems like the guy most likely to ruin fish's state of kansas first team to me.

[jfish26]

Or Jaylen Fisher.

[Mjl]

Or Jaylen Fisher.

I think he's hurt again.

[Mjl]

An all-state-of-Kansas first team (Lawson/Grimes/Doke/Brown/Wade) is not out of the question.

Konate is almost a sure thing I would think.

He has a better chance at dpoy than first team imho. Dok, Lawson, ans wade all seem more likely to be first team.

Wigginton seems like the guy most likely to ruin fish's state of kansas first team to me.

I don't disagree about Wiggington, but Konate by late last year had developed a pretty nice hook shot and a 16 footer. Now that Carter won't be there to dribble 15 seconds of each possesion, I think they'll play a lot more through Konate.

[PhDhawk]

Konate is almost a sure thing I would think.

He has a better chance at dpoy than first team imho. Dok, Lawson, ans wade all seem more likely to be first team.

Wigginton seems like the guy most likely to ruin fish's state of kansas first team to me.

I don't disagree about Wiggington, but Konate by late last year had developed a pretty nice hook shot and a 16 footer. Now that Carter won't be there to dribble 15 seconds of each possesion, I think they'll play a lot more through Konate.

i just don't have as much faith in his offense...plus i think lawson goes for 17/8 and dok goes 15/10 for a team that wins the conference by 3+ games.

and wade is preseason poy...so I can't have konate ahead of him.

[Mjl]

All conference doesn't go by position, does it? Could you have 4 bigs?

[pdub]

I don't Jaylen Fisher is good enough to make 1st team.
I could see Konate getting in there with a monster year.
But Dok is going to crush him.

[jfish26]

I would bet on both these things happening:

1. Doke will have a much better year; and

2. Konate will have a highlight block on Doke.

[PhDhawk]

I would bet on both these things happening:

1. Doke will have a much better year; and

2. Konate will have a highlight block on Doke.

3. Dok will posterize Konate

[NewtonHawk11]

I would bet on both these things happening:

1. Doke will have a much better year; and

2. Konate will have a highlight block on Doke.

3. Dok will posterize Konate

True story.

[PhDhawk]

KU, UK top college basketball preseason power rankings

Kansas, meanwhile, has been banking on its sit-out transfers since the spring of 2017. The marquee addition is former Memphis forward Dedric Lawson, who was one of the most productive players in the country two seasons ago. His brother, K.J., and former California point guard Charlie Moore enter the fold. Of course, Bill Self has his own collection of blue-chip recruits, especially guards Quentin Grimes and Devon Dotson. Starters Lagerald Vick and Udoka Azubuike are also back.

A decade ago, it would have been unheard of for teams that lost four draft picks (Kentucky) and a first-team All-American (Kansas, Devonte Graham) to be fighting over the No. 1 spot. But make no mistake, both teams are loaded.

So how do we differentiate between the two?

Right now, it comes down to versatility, balance and experience -- and Kansas just has more of it. The Jayhawks have three guys who can play point guard; they can go more standard with the Lawson brothers at the forward spots and Marcus Garrett or Vick at the 2; or they can go jumbo with Azubuike and Silvio De Sousa up front and Dedric Lawson also on the floor. Self is just spoiled for choice -- and he has eight guys with college experience in his rotation. Grimes might be the best incoming guard in the country, but neither he nor Dotson will need to rush to get acclimated.

There's certainly room for debate, though.

Circle Jan. 26 on your calendar. Kansas visits Lexington in the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. This argument will be settled there -- and potentially again on April 8 in Minneapolis.

1. Kansas Jayhawks: It's a close call between Kansas and Kentucky, but as mentioned above, the Jayhawks get the edge for now. We'll get an early look at the Jayhawks, as they'll potentially face top-25 teams Michigan State, Marquette, Tennessee and Villanova within the first six weeks of the season. The freshman backcourt of Dotson and Grimes will be thrown into the fire.

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I don't think we will see a single minute of SDS Dok and Dedric all on the floor. Wtf do they come up with this stuff?

3pgs? They counting grimes as a PG?

Weird.

[NewtonHawk11]

Everyone keeps sleeping on Moore. The dude scored 38 in a game in his freshman year. Averaged 12ppg and 2apg.

Can get to the line and shoot decent from deep at 35%.

The backcourt could be interesting with the rotations. But I think Moore, Dotson and Grimes all play a lot.

[PhDhawk]

Everyone keeps sleeping on Moore. The dude scored 38 in a game in his freshman year. Averaged 12ppg and 2apg.

Can get to the line and shoot decent from deep at 35%.

The backcourt could be interesting with the rotations. But I think Moore, Dotson and Grimes all play a lot.

He also had that alumni game where he went off this summer.

I'm not sleeping on Moore...but I wonder how consistent he'll be, I also think Dotson has a significantly higher ceiling.

Also, interesting that Self keeps talking about how he'll play a lot as the 2-guard.

It's not fair to do this, but Moore seems a lot more Graham-esque and Dotson may be more in the Mason mold.