F the NCAA

Kansas Basketball.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

Just wait until NCAA retroactively says Silvio was not good despite its appeal loss.

I mean, hell, if they vacate wins from 2017-18, this is not that much different.
jfish26
Contributor
Posts: 16117
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by jfish26 »

CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:46 am Just wait until NCAA retroactively says Silvio was not good despite its appeal loss.

I mean, hell, if they vacate wins from 2017-18, this is not that much different.
This sort of thing is playing out in other forums - literally the only thing the NCAA could do to jeopardize its power (from a legal standpoint) is to enforce its rules arbitrarily or in bad faith.

LOL
User avatar
pdub
Site Admin
Posts: 33240
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:07 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by pdub »

LOL.
User avatar
holidaysmore
Posts: 3186
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:18 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by holidaysmore »

Petty
Holidaysmore - 2005
NDballer13
Posts: 1734
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:08 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by NDballer13 »

Cali just signed the pay for play into law. Time to sit back and watch the fireworks.

#BITFD
jfish26
Contributor
Posts: 16117
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by jfish26 »

User avatar
NewtonHawk11
Posts: 12826
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:48 am
Location: Kansas

Re: F the NCAA

Post by NewtonHawk11 »

#BITFD
“I don’t remember anything he said, but it was a very memorable speech.” Julian Wright on a speech Michael Jordan gave to a group he was in

"But don’t ever get it twisted, it’s Rock Chalk forever." MG
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29004
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by ousdahl »

Wait, what’s this whole angle with Lebron’s media company?
noosh
Posts: 240
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:03 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by noosh »

The fact the bill was signed during a taping for LeBron's TV show shows you just how much confidence CA has in this ever going into effect.

Anyway, this is all pointless. While S.B. 206 does allow college dudes to make money off of the use of their name and likeness while retaining their eligibility, it doesn’t force universities to actually pay them. Under the law, a football player at Kansas may be able to monetize a YouTube channel or hire an agent without fear of losing his scholarship, but that's it.
Last edited by noosh on Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
jhawks99
Contributor
Posts: 15943
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:34 am
Location: Woodbury, MN

Re: F the NCAA

Post by jhawks99 »

Can someone educate me, what is bitfd?
Defense. Rebounds.
noosh
Posts: 240
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:03 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by noosh »

ThroughThePhog wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:38 am https://throughthephog.com/2019/09/25/k ... legations/
NCAA is already punishing Kansas on the recruiting trail.
The only flaw in this story is that we aren't UNC. Recruiting has never been as easy for us.

That and the NCAA wasn't in need of an image makeover. Really bad time for Billy Eugene to not have a burner.
JayhawkInIowa726
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:23 pm

Re: F the NCAA

Post by JayhawkInIowa726 »

BITFD = Burn It The F**k Down
User avatar
jhawks99
Contributor
Posts: 15943
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:34 am
Location: Woodbury, MN

Re: F the NCAA

Post by jhawks99 »

thanks
Defense. Rebounds.
User avatar
Lonestarjayhawk
Posts: 845
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:27 am
Location: Republic of Texas

Re: F the NCAA

Post by Lonestarjayhawk »

Embarrassed to say FUCK?
LONESTARJAYHAWK
Hall of Fame Contributor
First Ballot illy, dickvard and glugger - - Least Favorite Poster
User avatar
zsn
Contributor
Posts: 3551
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:39 pm
Location: SF Bay Area

Re: F the NCAA

Post by zsn »

noosh wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:44 am The fact the bill was signed during a taping for LeBron's TV show shows you just how much confidence CA has in this ever going into effect.

Anyway, this is all pointless. While S.B. 206 does allow college dudes to make money off of the use of their name and likeness while retaining their eligibility, it doesn’t force universities to actually pay them. Under the law, a football player at Kansas may be able to monetize a YouTube channel or hire an agent without fear of losing his scholarship, but that's it.
There is some dispute as to whether the Bill was actually signed during the show.....the paper LeBron held up was not the Bill. Anyway, it is set to go into effect only in 2023, presumably to avoid litigation regarding athletes already in college under the old rules.

The NCAA is having an ouchie about this, but similar laws are being worked-on in other states (NC, Colorado, Maryland, Washington etc.). State universities are goverened by the State govt and thus the NCAA is mostly SOL, except in specific cases (competition rules). This is the reason that the State of CA can prohibit state schools from traveling to states where there are "discriminatory laws".

Yes, the NCAA can say that the schools from these states cannot play in the tournament, but imagine the blowback if KU, UNC and Duke cannot play in the NCAA tournament or Clemson in Bowl games (if the NC law is similar to CA law all schools in the state, public or private will have to pay student-athletes for commercial use of their name-image-and-likeness)
jfish26
Contributor
Posts: 16117
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by jfish26 »

I think where this is headed is federal legislation that preempts legislation at the state level, but will generally have the effect of opening up N/I/L.
User avatar
twocoach
Posts: 19050
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:33 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by twocoach »

noosh wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:44 am The fact the bill was signed during a taping for LeBron's TV show shows you just how much confidence CA has in this ever going into effect.

Anyway, this is all pointless. While S.B. 206 does allow college dudes to make money off of the use of their name and likeness while retaining their eligibility, it doesn’t force universities to actually pay them. Under the law, a football player at Kansas may be able to monetize a YouTube channel or hire an agent without fear of losing his scholarship, but that's it.
A basketball player at KU could also sign an endorsement contract with Adidas if the rule was in place.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

zsn wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:22 pm
noosh wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:44 am The fact the bill was signed during a taping for LeBron's TV show shows you just how much confidence CA has in this ever going into effect.

Anyway, this is all pointless. While S.B. 206 does allow college dudes to make money off of the use of their name and likeness while retaining their eligibility, it doesn’t force universities to actually pay them. Under the law, a football player at Kansas may be able to monetize a YouTube channel or hire an agent without fear of losing his scholarship, but that's it.
There is some dispute as to whether the Bill was actually signed during the show.....the paper LeBron held up was not the Bill. Anyway, it is set to go into effect only in 2023, presumably to avoid litigation regarding athletes already in college under the old rules.

The NCAA is having an ouchie about this, but similar laws are being worked-on in other states (NC, Colorado, Maryland, Washington etc.). State universities are goverened by the State govt and thus the NCAA is mostly SOL, except in specific cases (competition rules). This is the reason that the State of CA can prohibit state schools from traveling to states where there are "discriminatory laws".

Yes, the NCAA can say that the schools from these states cannot play in the tournament, but imagine the blowback if KU, UNC and Duke cannot play in the NCAA tournament or Clemson in Bowl games (if the NC law is similar to CA law all schools in the state, public or private will have to pay student-athletes for commercial use of their name-image-and-likeness)
Legislation like this and litigation related to the n/i/l issue help shape public opinion. We have 75% of basketball coaches now saying that N/I/L is the future. The fans are following and increasingly saying N/I/L is the right and just thing.

It's similar to gay marriage. It was something like a 40-50 point jump in the US population stating that it should be legal AFTER the SCOTUS struck down all the state bans.
User avatar
Geezer
Posts: 3474
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:23 am

Re: F the NCAA

Post by Geezer »

I don't understand what the law can do. Surely they don't think they can compel the NCAA to grant eligibility to a player getting paid for his likeness.
Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Post Reply