Kansas Crimson

This is the issue that solicited the question from the audience.


https://www.iowapublicradio.org/ipr-new ... ists-alike

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 pm That last one is frightening.
I can't stand the new re-popularization of socialism and communism.

But this is straight up Nazi shit. Unless he misspoke, given that he did first give the context of immigration.

You do realize that Nazis are socialists, right?

Who were their main political opponents?

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:53 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 pm That last one is frightening.
I can't stand the new re-popularization of socialism and communism.

But this is straight up Nazi shit. Unless he misspoke, given that he did first give the context of immigration.

You do realize that Nazis are socialists, right?

Who were their main political opponents?

Communists?

defixione wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:52 pm This is the issue that solicited the question from the audience.


https://www.iowapublicradio.org/ipr-new ... ists-alike

Assuming Trump had any idea what she was talking about...he tried to falsely create the impression that if only he were in office, he had "plans" that would have made her happy.

But, sadly, Psych and Randy, and all the other cult members who lack the self-esteem to feel worthy of vetting anything their cult-master says, it ain't necessarily so. Because on 12/28/20, right before leaving office, he made it easier to permit and finance CO2 pipelines:

Today, U.S. Senator John Barrasso (R-WY), chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works (EPW), released the following statement on the president signing the Utilizing Significant Emissions with Innovative Technologies (USE IT) Act into law. The USE IT Act passed Congress as part of the legislation to fund the government. The Omnibus also extended the 45Q tax credit for carbon capture projects for two years.

“President Trump has signed important legislation to help grow Wyoming’s economy and reduce carbon emissions through innovation,” said Barrasso. “Wyoming is already leading the way on carbon capture research. At the Integrated Test Center in Gillette, researchers are developing innovative solutions that will allow us to keep using Wyoming’s natural resources. The USE IT Act will lead to considerably more groundbreaking research. By converting carbon emissions into valuable and marketable products, we can help address a changing climate and boost Wyoming’s economy at the same time.”

The USE IT Act will:

Narrowly amend the Clean Air Act to direct the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to support carbon utilization and direct air capture research;

Clarify that CCUS projects and CO2 pipelines are eligible for the streamlined permitting review process established by the FAST Act;

The 45Q tax credit incentivizes utilities and other industrial sources to build-out CCUS projects, including Class VI wells. The projects will reduce the energy sector’s and industrial sector’s carbon footprint.

[...]

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 pm That last one is frightening.
I can't stand the new re-popularization of socialism and communism.

But this is straight up Nazi shit. Unless he misspoke, given that he did first give the context of immigration.

You do realize that Nazis are socialists, right?

https://flic.kr/p/2oNitFH

The right needs to stop falsely claiming that the Nazis were socialists
The Nazis hated socialists. It was the governments that rebuilt Europe that embraced social welfare programs.

Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?

[...]

Feral again with the work. Thanks!

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:01 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:08 pm That last one is frightening.
I can't stand the new re-popularization of socialism and communism.

But this is straight up Nazi shit. Unless he misspoke, given that he did first give the context of immigration.

You do realize that Nazis are socialists, right?

https://flic.kr/p/2oNitFH

The right needs to stop falsely claiming that the Nazis were socialists
The Nazis hated socialists. It was the governments that rebuilt Europe that embraced social welfare programs.

Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?

[...]

Thanks, dick. My point was, as it has been for years now, that you all have overused the term until it no longer has any meaning. Just say “I don’t like that guy. He makes me feel threatened” rather than misusing the term “Nazi” yet again.

I guess as long as you think you're making a point, that's all that matters.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:40 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:01 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:31 pm

You do realize that Nazis are socialists, right?

https://flic.kr/p/2oNitFH

The right needs to stop falsely claiming that the Nazis were socialists
The Nazis hated socialists. It was the governments that rebuilt Europe that embraced social welfare programs.

Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?

[...]

Thanks, dick. My point was, as it has been for years now, that you all have overused the term until it no longer has any meaning. Just say “I don’t like that guy. He makes me feel threatened” rather than misusing the term “Nazi” yet again.

Now do "Socialist".

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:53 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:31 pm

You do realize that Nazis are socialists, right?

Who were their main political opponents?

Communists?

Yes.

To think of "socialism" being a defining characteristic of the Nazis is misunderstanding history

Anyone see Trump's hole in one the other day?

https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1 ... 5816823809

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:52 am Anyone see Trump's hole in one the other day?

https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1 ... 5816823809

I did see that.

Pro tip: Keep your right elbow in.

https://twitter.com/MaryBushard/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/yarbro/status/15571 ... wsrc%5Etfw

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:58 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:52 am Anyone see Trump's hole in one the other day?

https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1 ... 5816823809

I did see that.

Pro tip: Keep your right elbow in.

That's a good pro tip but THE Donald knows he's already the best non-professional golfer in the world and doesn't need/want any tips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbezgYVvyng

It's taken Trump years to refine that move.

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:07 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:53 pm

Who were their main political opponents?

Communists?

Yes.

To think of "socialism" being a defining characteristic of the Nazis is misunderstanding history

I don't disagree with that. My objection is to using Nazi as a term to describe anyone with whom people disagree. The notion that Trump and anyone who supported him is racist is silly, but attaching the term Nazi to them implies that they support mass extinction and are in favor of dehumanizing approaches to life - neither of which is true.

Is Trump a nationalist? Sure. Are his supporters? Probably most of them. Is that the same as being a Nazi? Absolutely not.

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:00 pm I guess as long as you think you're making a point, that's all that matters.

I know you're much too intelligent to miss the point, so that leaves being intentionally obtuse. I hope you're getting the intended effect out of that approach, whatever it is.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:08 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:07 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Communists?

Yes.

To think of "socialism" being a defining characteristic of the Nazis is misunderstanding history

I don't disagree with that. My objection is to using Nazi as a term to describe anyone with whom people disagree. The notion that Trump and anyone who supported him is racist is silly, but attaching the term Nazi to them implies that they support mass extinction and are in favor of dehumanizing approaches to life - neither of which is true.

Is Trump a nationalist? Sure. Are his supporters? Probably most of them. Is that the same as being a Nazi? Absolutely not.

Trump's an equal-opportunity bigot enabler, and the sheer vastness of his bigotry serves to give him cover. If white bigots and fascists, i.e., his cult members, can be triggered to send him money and vote for him, he's only too happy to demonize whatever minority they prefer.

If it quacks like a duck...

https://youtu.be/JNWBTHb-qSI

Today In: "Some very fine people...":
https://flic.kr/p/2oPNNqZ

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:46 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:08 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:07 pm

Yes.

To think of "socialism" being a defining characteristic of the Nazis is misunderstanding history

I don't disagree with that. My objection is to using Nazi as a term to describe anyone with whom people disagree. The notion that Trump and anyone who supported him is racist is silly, but attaching the term Nazi to them implies that they support mass extinction and are in favor of dehumanizing approaches to life - neither of which is true.

Is Trump a nationalist? Sure. Are his supporters? Probably most of them. Is that the same as being a Nazi? Absolutely not.

Trump's an equal-opportunity bigot enabler, and the sheer vastness of his bigotry serves to give him cover. If white bigots and fascists, i.e., his cult members, can be triggered to send him money and vote for him, he's only too happy to demonize whatever minority they prefer.

If it quacks like a duck...

https://youtu.be/JNWBTHb-qSI

Today In: "Some very fine people...":
https://flic.kr/p/2oPNNqZ

Nationalism = racism. Got it.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:08 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:07 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Communists?

Yes.

To think of "socialism" being a defining characteristic of the Nazis is misunderstanding history

I don't disagree with that. My objection is to using Nazi as a term to describe anyone with whom people disagree. The notion that Trump and anyone who supported him is racist is silly, but attaching the term Nazi to them implies that they support mass extinction and are in favor of dehumanizing approaches to life - neither of which is true.

Is Trump a nationalist? Sure. Are his supporters? Probably most of them. Is that the same as being a Nazi? Absolutely not.

Completely agree