Bryce Thompson Transferring

Kansas Basketball.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:29 pm Runaway favorites?

How'd that work out for Gonzaga.
Extremely well! WTF?
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

hasbeen wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:35 am
pdub wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:32 am Dotson 2020 more PPG, RPG, SPG, fewer TO/PG, better FG%.
Vonte had a lot of 4 for 12 type of games.
Are we still stripping all context from these types of numbers? That's been a thing dumb shits have done on message boards for decades, better not stop now I guess.
Welcome back.
User avatar
hasbeen
Posts: 645
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:59 pm

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by hasbeen »

CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:37 am
hasbeen wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:35 am
pdub wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:32 am Dotson 2020 more PPG, RPG, SPG, fewer TO/PG, better FG%.
Vonte had a lot of 4 for 12 type of games.
Are we still stripping all context from these types of numbers? That's been a thing dumb shits have done on message boards for decades, better not stop now I guess.
Welcome back.
I tried to avoid slipping into old habits, but when moron nerds go look at box scores alone it's hard not to.
"So, which one of these topics are conspiracy?

1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."

- lobser
NDballer13
Posts: 1734
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:08 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by NDballer13 »

BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:07 am
Being 3 heavy/guard heavy isn't a negative in my opinion. It got them to a final 4. Baylor is pretty 3 heavy/guard heavy and it worked out ok for them.
Baylor's defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2018 Kansas defense.
User avatar
pdub
Site Admin
Posts: 33644
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:07 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by pdub »

We don't need to strip context.

Selfs 2018 offense was let it fly - so actually Vonte got to chuck it up a lot - and i'd argue his guards ( Malik, Svi, Vick ) were quite a bit better than Dotson's ( Ochai, Garrett, Moss ) - so you might see a way where Dotson's assists could actually be even higher. And it was a slower pace than 18. So no need to strip context at all.

But 2020 Dok, paired with the you can't stop me from going to the basket Dotson, and with the all you gotta do is play defense Garrett, was fearsome -- they had 2 of the top 5 defenders in the nation.

You might also see that Dotson made the consensus 2nd AA team - while Vonte made 1st.
So arguing that Vonte was better, but not THAT much better, actually shouldn't be that hot of a take.
User avatar
hasbeen
Posts: 645
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:59 pm

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by hasbeen »

pdub wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:41 am

Selfs 2018 offense was let it fly - so actually Vonte got to chuck it up a lot - and i'd argue his guards ( Malik, Svi, Vick ) were quite a bit better than Dotson's ( Ochai, Garrett, Moss ) - so you might see a way where Dotson's assists could actually be even higher. And it was a slower pace than 18. So no need to strip context at all.
I like how you don't include Garrett in the 2018 group, even though he played a lot of minutes. My favorite from that season was in the Final Four when he received a great pass for a wide open 3 and froze up.

You're also remembering Big 12 Tournament/NCAA Tournament Malik which was a different beast entirely from regular season Malik. All of which influences Devonte's numbers. He was asked to do far more than Dotson ever was, including and especially on defense.
Last edited by hasbeen on Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
"So, which one of these topics are conspiracy?

1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."

- lobser
User avatar
pdub
Site Admin
Posts: 33644
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:07 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by pdub »

2020 B12 press release:
Marcus Garrett ( Kansas ) was named Defense Player of the Year.

2018 B12 press release:
Big 12 All-Defensive Team -
Barry Brown, Mohamba Bamba, Sagaba Konate, Jevon Carter, Zhaire Smith

And are you arguing Ochai, Garrett, Moss > Malik, Svi, Vick 18 offensively?
User avatar
hasbeen
Posts: 645
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:59 pm

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by hasbeen »

Uh, I'm arguing that it's actually very close? You're the one furiously scrolling box scores to make an argument about how there's a huge gap. There isn't.
"So, which one of these topics are conspiracy?

1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."

- lobser
User avatar
pdub
Site Admin
Posts: 33644
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:07 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by pdub »

I'm not furiously scrolling box scores.
No need to!

https://www.kansascrimson.com/crimscore/
User avatar
sdoyel
Posts: 12426
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:18 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by sdoyel »

Oklahoma State.
"The real issue with covid: its not killing enough people." - randylahey

GTS Champ 2008
GTS Champ 2020*

“We good?” - Bill Self

RIP jhawk73

🇺🇦
User avatar
holidaysmore
Posts: 3186
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:18 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by holidaysmore »

Best of luck, kid.
Holidaysmore - 2005
User avatar
InfiniteJ
Contributor
Posts: 2138
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:46 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by InfiniteJ »

What if he breaks a finger during every home game?
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29285
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by ousdahl »

Ugh why would you even say that
User avatar
punkrockhawk
Posts: 180
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:33 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by punkrockhawk »

Transferring within the same conference is pretty douchey if you ask me, but whatever...
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29285
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by ousdahl »

Maybe.

He’s also from Oklahoma, and a lot more talented than your average Tulsa recruit.

But yea it kinda feels weird.
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29285
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by ousdahl »

And it was kinda smartass of me when I first made the comment, but I really do hope Braun gets the best of him.
User avatar
PhDhawk
Posts: 10076
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:03 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by PhDhawk »

ousdahl wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:47 pm Maybe.

He’s also from Oklahoma, and a lot more talented than your average Tulsa recruit.

But yea it kinda feels weird.
well, it's not like he left KU for geographical reasons.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

punkrockhawk wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:44 pm Transferring within the same conference is pretty douchey if you ask me, but whatever...
I love it. Bill knows him better than Bryce knows himself.
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29285
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by ousdahl »

Take away the drive and force him to shoot that ugly j?
User avatar
PhDhawk
Posts: 10076
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:03 am

Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring

Post by PhDhawk »

CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:49 pm
punkrockhawk wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:44 pm Transferring within the same conference is pretty douchey if you ask me, but whatever...
I love it. Bill knows him better than Bryce knows himself.
If it gives us an advantage, can we send out transfers to the Pac12 then, since that's the conference we apparently can't beat in the tournament.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Post Reply