Kansas Crimson

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:12 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:05 am

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 am Texas annually puts nearly 100,000 fans in the seats for home football games, a top 10 program in terms of attendance. Oklahoma is mid-80,000s, a top 15 attendance program. After that, no Big 12 school has averaged 60,000 fans per home game from 2017-19. Iowa State, West Virginia, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State all have been in the mid-to-high 50,000s; Kansas State, Baylor and TCU are the next tier; and Kansas is its own mud flat of apathy.

The only other blueblood revenue program in the conference is Kansas men’s basketball, and that comes with two problems attached: it is a compliance tire fire at the moment, deep into a major NCAA infractions case; as we learned very clearly a decade ago, basketball really doesn’t matter. Football matters, and Kansas is the worst Power 5 football program in the country—and has its own compliance issues.

I would watch ND very closely and hope they do not go to B10

SEC Texas and OU

Big 10 ND and ISU

ACC WVA and UCF

PAC 12 Baylor TCU TTECH and OSU

Mountain West KU KSTATE

Being the worst Power 5 football program can lead to some hard no's

FOH with that. The KC market is a good one. It's a big college sports town as well as a sports town in general. KU is the program in KC.

Get your pessimistic self outta here. It's exciting for KU. Looking at getting to a conference with better footing than the Big 12 in less than a few years.

How big of a role does the KC market really play in something like this? Big 10 already has Chicago and Indy (and others).

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:14 am Are we assuming there are going to be 4 large conferences?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:12 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:05 am

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 am Texas annually puts nearly 100,000 fans in the seats for home football games, a top 10 program in terms of attendance. Oklahoma is mid-80,000s, a top 15 attendance program. After that, no Big 12 school has averaged 60,000 fans per home game from 2017-19. Iowa State, West Virginia, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State all have been in the mid-to-high 50,000s; Kansas State, Baylor and TCU are the next tier; and Kansas is its own mud flat of apathy.

The only other blueblood revenue program in the conference is Kansas men’s basketball, and that comes with two problems attached: it is a compliance tire fire at the moment, deep into a major NCAA infractions case; as we learned very clearly a decade ago, basketball really doesn’t matter. Football matters, and Kansas is the worst Power 5 football program in the country—and has its own compliance issues.

I would watch ND very closely and hope they do not go to B10

SEC Texas and OU

Big 10 ND and ISU

ACC WVA and UCF

PAC 12 Baylor TCU TTECH and OSU

Mountain West KU KSTATE

Being the worst Power 5 football program can lead to some hard no's

FOH with that. The KC market is a good one. It's a big college sports town as well as a sports town in general. KU is the program in KC.

Get your pessimistic self outta here. It's exciting for KU. Looking at getting to a conference with better footing than the Big 12 in less than a few years.

How big of a role does the KC market really play in something like this? Big 10 already has Chicago and Indy (and others).

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:38 am Kansas 16th. That's pretty good.

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jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:55 am In these situations I hope it turns out to be true that our dismal football program is a feature of our attractiveness, not a bug.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:30 am Good luck, UT. I hope you enjoy becoming the SEC version of Nebraska. They are going to find out real quick what it is like playing an SEC schedule year after year. Just ask 'darling' OU how it is to face the top tier of SEC competition.

They both can count all of their money while their football teams consistently get their asses kicked.

When UT and OU leave if an opportunity for KU opens up for the B10 you take it. IMMEDIATELY.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:33 am

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:30 am Good luck, UT. I hope you enjoy becoming the SEC version of Nebraska. They are going to find out real quick what it is like playing an SEC schedule year after year. Just ask 'darling' OU how it is to face the top tier of SEC competition.

They both can count all of their money while their football teams consistently get their asses kicked.

When UT and OU leave if an opportunity for KU opens up for the B10 you take it. IMMEDIATELY.

At this point I don't think you even wait for UT and OU to leave. Why the fuck would you want to stay in a conference with them? If the Big12 stays in tact, it's cause they caved to OU and UT and that sucks, and if they're leaving, we better act now and get our shit in order.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:30 am Good luck, UT. I hope you enjoy becoming the SEC version of Nebraska. They are going to find out real quick what it is like playing an SEC schedule year after year. Just ask 'darling' OU how it is to face the top tier of SEC competition.

They both can count all of their money while their football teams consistently get their asses kicked.

When UT and OU leave if an opportunity for KU opens up for the B10 you take it. IMMEDIATELY.

LVCHawk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:36 am I think the Big 12 probably stays together in some form, but if KU is in it, then KU is stupid. It will become a glorified mid-major.