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Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:07 am
by KUTradition
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:05 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:44 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:48 am
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/13/politics ... index.html
Yeah, it's just the media wanting to portray him as a kook and not that he's an actual kook and it's being pointed out by the media.... OK.
“I want to just pursue just one question on these, you know, the other endocrine disruptors because our children now, you know, we’re seeing these impacts that people suspect are very different than in ages past about sexual identification among children and sexual confusion, gender confusion,” Kennedy said on his podcast in June last year. “These kinds of issues that are very, very controversial today.”
They aren't controversial. They are non-existent outside of kook circles.
there is actually some emerging data suggesting that some microplastics can affect hormone levels
(but that’s obviously irrespective of vaccines)
"Some" and "affect" being very generic, subjective words that would need to be expanded on greatly.
agreed
this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:17 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:07 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:05 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:44 am
there is actually some emerging data suggesting that some microplastics can affect hormone levels
(but that’s obviously irrespective of vaccines)
"Some" and "affect" being very generic, subjective words that would need to be expanded on greatly.
agreed
this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans
Yep. Like I said "can affect" is way different than "can result in a person feeling that they should be an entirely different gender than that to which they were born". But in today's world and the desire of some to jump to quick all or nothing assumptions to try to win a battle of social media meme arguments, here we are.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:24 am
by KUTradition
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:17 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:07 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:05 am
"Some" and "affect" being very generic, subjective words that would need to be expanded on greatly.
agreed
this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans
Yep. Like I said "can affect" is way different than "can result in a person feeling that they should be an entirely different gender than that to which they were born". But in today's world and the desire of some to jump to quick all or nothing assumptions to try to win a battle of social media meme arguments, here we are.
https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advo ... man-health
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:25 am
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:53 am
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:47 am
Better California than Florida.
Seems as if many people disagree with you, given that Florida's population is up for the eleventh consecutive year and California's is down for the third year in a row.
Yeah ok.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/farmers-in ... 00-people/
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-combat ... ge-1793928
Like I've said: the bill for getting high on culture war nonsense (very much including utter denial over climate change) is coming due. And it's gonna sting.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 am
by Mjl
What makes RFK a Dem?
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:34 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:24 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:17 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:07 am
agreed
this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans
Yep. Like I said "can affect" is way different than "can result in a person feeling that they should be an entirely different gender than that to which they were born". But in today's world and the desire of some to jump to quick all or nothing assumptions to try to win a battle of social media meme arguments, here we are.
https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advo ... man-health
Interesting read, that's for sharing. Yes, I fully believe that we are all being slowly poisoned at some level by the food and water we consume, the air we breathe and the ground we walk and live on. The amount of non-natural chemicals we are creating is mind boggling. It's why I feel so strongly that one of the worst things about another Trump administration would be his continued assault on the EPA and other measures designed to monitor and regulate the oil and natural gas industries and more specifically, their waste, since nearly all plastics contain some form of petroleum/natural gas byproduct.
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php? ... 20refining.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:35 am
by twocoach
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 am
What makes RFK a Dem?
The same thing that makes Donald Trump a Republican. Perceived opportunity.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:36 am
by jfish26
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 am
What makes RFK a Dem?
He's no more a Dem than Trump is a Pub. And the theory behind the identification is the same.
(I digress, but...ah...aren't the Pubs typically
against matters of self-identification?)
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:59 am
by randylahey
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 am
What makes RFK a Dem?
He aligns with the dems in a lot of ways. Sensible ways. Reasons I used to consider myself a democrat. Like environmental issues
He just doesn't align radical radical leftist ideology that is so important these days, like identity politics, Trans movement. He thinks the intelligence agencies need to be reigned in. That the federal government needs to be held accountable and actually serve the American people. And he's been at war with big pharma corruption for awhile
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:01 am
by KUTradition
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:04 am
by Mjl
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:59 am
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 am
What makes RFK a Dem?
He aligns with the dems in a lot of ways. Sensible ways. Reasons I used to consider myself a democrat. Like environmental issues
He just doesn't align radical radical leftist ideology that is so important these days, like identity politics, Trans movement. He thinks the intelligence agencies need to be reigned in. That the federal government needs to be held accountable and actually serve the American people. And he's been at war with big pharma corruption for awhile
He tweeted yesterday that environmental issues need to be solved through the free market. That's not the Democrat point of view on the environment.
So, again, what issues does he align with Democrats on?
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:20 am
by randylahey
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:04 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:59 am
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 am
What makes RFK a Dem?
He aligns with the dems in a lot of ways. Sensible ways. Reasons I used to consider myself a democrat. Like environmental issues
He just doesn't align radical radical leftist ideology that is so important these days, like identity politics, Trans movement. He thinks the intelligence agencies need to be reigned in. That the federal government needs to be held accountable and actually serve the American people. And he's been at war with big pharma corruption for awhile
He tweeted yesterday that environmental issues need to be solved through the free market. That's not the Democrat point of view on the environment.
So, again, what issues does he align with Democrats on?
The modern democrat left democrat values behind a long time ago. Kennedy is old school. Like I said he doesn't believe in federal government overreach. Which is why they use environmental issues to do
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 am
by KUTradition
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:35 am
by Mjl
When was the Democrat approach to environmental issues for the Government to keep hands off?
That's, like, a defining difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:37 am
by KUTradition
randy is working backwards, making shit up to fit his narrative
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:41 am
by Mjl
To clarify, this makes no sense, but it certainly has never been the Democrat view on the subject
https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/sta ... 87873?s=20
Unless you translate that into "let's do cap and trade". But it seems a stretch to say that's what he meant. And it's still Government doing something.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:46 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:37 am
randy is working backwards, making shit up to fit his narrative
Randy may not even know that he's being used to amplify pro-Trump messaging on this. The
entire point of RFK's joke candidacy is to draw a few percentage points away from Biden.
Why?
Because Trump (and his handlers)
know that he doesn't have a shot in 2024, but for trickery.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:46 am
by twocoach
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:35 am
When was the Democrat approach to environmental issues for the Government to keep hands off?
That's, like, a defining difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Randy just barfed out a boilerplate answer without even worrying about the fact that he was wrong. He doesn't care.
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:51 am
by twocoach
Re: Robert f Kennedy jr
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:59 am
by KUTradition
Fact-checking Kennedy’s assertions is like chasing rabbits. This is a good example. The four-trillion dollar figure was likely an estimate for the price of the federal bailout. Many of the five hundred billionaires he seems to refer to rose up in other countries, especially China.
