Israel/Palestine

[KUTradition]

i love ignorant people that use the word genocide inappropriately

[DCHawk1]

i love ignorant people that use the word genocide inappropriately

Are you saying it's something that can't be "perpetuated?"

[ousdahl]

allow me to deny mjl's allegation, and condemn nazism.

someone also let mjl I'm no threat to him, nor to anyone else, if that really needs to be said.

the Overland Park hotel is a reference to B2L's date. If that's what he means as the place he's from, it's entirely coincidental, I didn't even know that.

the only psychotic motherfuckers here are the ones who want to starve kids and bomb entire families off the map.

Actually, some of the things you have posted (on this thread and on others) pretty much confirm you are a psychotic mother fucker.
Before you go on attack or defense mode (or agree), I am fully aware I am a pot calling a kettle black.

thanks for the perspective, gutter.

and thanks for offering as much without saying you'll find me and end me.

[KUTradition]

i love ignorant people that use the word genocide inappropriately

Are you saying it's something that can't be "perpetuated?"

now that you mention it, yes (lol)

but i was more so alluding to the actual definition of genocide

as i imagine you’d agree, hamas is nothing more than a militant terrorist organization. Israel’s attempt to eradicate hamas, therefor, doesn’t qualify

as someone else said, if Israel really wanted to commit genocide of Palestinians, they could relatively easily (and with much less loss of IDF lives) have razed the whole of Gaza to the ground

[ousdahl]

could have razed the whole of Gaza to the ground….what exactly do you think they’re doing?

And who knows about actual numbers but last I saw Israel claimed something like 60 Hamas targets killed, out of 10000+ overall Gazans killed…that’s like a .006 accuracy rate…not to mention over a million displaced.

I just don’t know what good it does to instead debate the semantics of “genocide.”

Maybe “ethnic cleansing” is more appropriate, if you prefer.

[jfish26]

could have razed the whole of Gaza to the ground….what exactly do you think they’re doing?

And who knows about actual numbers but last I saw Israel claimed something like 60 Hamas targets killed, out of 10000+ overall Gazans killed…that’s like a .006 accuracy rate…not to mention over a million displaced.

I just don’t know what good it does to instead debate the semantics of “genocide.”

Maybe “ethnic cleansing” is more appropriate, if you prefer.

You really can't both (1) exaggerate for effect what's happening, and (2) chide people for pointing out that you're exaggerating for effect.

[ousdahl]

I’m not sure I’m exaggerating.

I think this very well may be more likely to go down in the history books something closer to ethnic cleansing or genocide, than some appropriate use of force in the name of self-defense…sadly enough.

[MICHHAWK]

if the m.e. needs to blow itself up. what is the rest of us supposed to do. other than pull up a chair.

[jfish26]

if the m.e. needs to blow itself up. what is the rest of us supposed to do. other than pull up a chair.

Thought you were OPPOSED to high gas prices?

[Back2Lawrence]

Re: hotel rooms in Overland Park.

The place I stayed at was real nice. After my stay, maybe just a little worse.

I’m not looking forward to the repair charge.

Granted, it’s not Gaza Strip type rubble, but it may be close.

[MICHHAWK]

we have uncles high gas prices prior to October 7.

[jfish26]

we have uncles high gas prices prior to October 7.

Some of these words make sense, but I’m struggling to see how they are relevant to my point that you’re responding to.

[KUTradition]

i think we should all just go back to grunting, since words and their definitions mean so little

[ousdahl]

Is this still a semantics debate about genocide or ethnic cleansing?

How is it NOT genocide or ethnic cleansing?

[DCHawk1]

How is it NOT genocide or ethnic cleansing?

Here's a negative -- one in which I purposefully HIGHLIGHT the negative.

Now prove it.

[zsn]

Very interesting occurrences in the southern Bay Area over the past couple of days. On the freeways (in name only during commute hours because the average speed is 20-30 mph….but I digress) we have many pedestrian overpasses and people are always putting up signs for some cause or another. Everyone slows down to read what the signs say and make the bad traffic congestion worse, because…….morans can’t drive and read at the same time…….again, I digress……..

Anyway, on Monday there were signs on multiple overpasses saying “Bring them back home” and “Never forget” with Israeli flags on the sign and people waving Israeli flags. A few honkers. Yesterday, same overpasses, signs said “4000 people killed. Your tax dollars at work” and “Ceasefire now” with Palestinian flags on the signs and people waving Palestinian flags. A few honkers.

I have no other point besides relaying the pulse of a community.

[ousdahl]

How is it NOT genocide or ethnic cleansing?

Here's a negative -- one in which I purposefully HIGHLIGHT the negative.

Now prove it.

Bro but I’m not the one claiming the negative is so.

“Tens of thousands of civilian casualties, thousands of civilian infrastructures destroyed, food water energy healthcare cut off, millions displaced, this sounds like some kinda ethnic cleanse or genocide.”

No It AiNt!!!

“Well why not?”

NoW YeR TrYnA PrOvE A NeGaTiVe!!!

[DCHawk1]

I don't think you understand how logic -- formal or informal -- works.

And if that's condescending, it's only because you've earned it.

[ousdahl]

Let’s try this:

What would you prefer to call “tens of thousands of civilian casualties, thousands of civilian infrastructures destroyed, food water energy healthcare cut off, millions displaced?”

Self-defense?

Freedom and democracy?

Just for the lulz?

[DCHawk1]

What would you prefer to call “tens of thousands of civilian casualties, thousands of civilian infrastructures destroyed, food water energy healthcare cut off, millions displaced?”

The tragic but inevitable consequence of decades of intentionally cultivated hatred, purposefully fomented resentment, and the cynical manipulation of millions of people for crass religious and ideological purposes.