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Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:00 pm
by pdub
It's hard to say with Baylor because their primetime matchups all got postponed/cancelled but I expect them to be very good. Like challenge us for the B12 good.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:43 pm
by pdub
Texas up to 4.
Kansas 6.
Last time Texas was top 5 since 2011.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:44 pm
by Deleted User 89
i love our guys, but they just don’t look like a top 10 team (yet?)
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:59 pm
by ousdahl
It’s mind boggling that Texas only cracks the top 5 once a decade
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:31 pm
by randylahey
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:44 pm
i love our guys, but they just don’t look like a top 10 team (yet?)
they have a good resume. wins over several ranked teams. only loses to #1 and #4.
but do top 10 teams lose at home by 25?? LOL
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:44 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
You can find flaws for most top 10 teams in any given year.
We’re just so used to being a top 3 team.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:01 am
by NewtonHawk11
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:44 pm
You can find flaws for most top 10 teams in any given year.
We’re just so used to being a top 3 team.
Damn this is so accurate.
This team is still really good. Zags are best team by far, but that's really only the only team without a huge flaw. Other teams in the top 10 have flaws. And basically all those flaws come down to shooting. For example, if KU just shoots 40% from 3, they score 24 more points, which is the difference in scoring margin in that Texas game.
It's a part of the game.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:38 am
by NDballer13
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:01 am
For example, if KU just shoots 40% from 3, they score 24 more points, which is the difference in scoring margin in that Texas game.
It's a part of the game.
This is what I have said to multiple people who say Texas just took Kansas to the woodshed and dominated the entire game.
No, they made shots and Kansas missed. KU made Texas beat them from the outside, and that's what happened. KU got plenty of wide open looks from their best shooters that just didn't go in. That game was simply a product of one team having their best shooting game of the year, while the other team had their worst. It happens and you move on. No reason to all of a sudden start calling for the NCAA to hand a post season ban this year because the team is garbage.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:44 pm
by chiknbut
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:38 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:01 am
For example, if KU just shoots 40% from 3, they score 24 more points, which is the difference in scoring margin in that Texas game.
It's a part of the game.
This is what I have said to multiple people who say Texas just took Kansas to the woodshed and dominated the entire game.
No, they made shots and Kansas missed. KU made Texas beat them from the outside, and that's what happened. KU got plenty of wide open looks from their best shooters that just didn't go in. That game was simply a product of one team having their best shooting game of the year, while the other team had their worst. It happens and you move on. No reason to all of a sudden start calling for the NCAA to hand a post season ban this year because the team is garbage.
Add into this the fact that this was Texas and Shaka's Super Bowl. They had this game circled on their calendars since last year. They had everything to gain, nothing to lose.
It would have been a different story altogether if KU didn't shit the bed. It happens. I look forward to payback in Austin.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:52 pm
by NDballer13
I don't really buy into the "it's their Super Bowl" narrative, like KU just doesn't care about the game. If KU is going into any games, outside of actual exhibition games, with a who cares attitude, then a bad shooting game is the least of the worries when it comes to this team.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:56 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Well it is certainly true that everyone in the Big 12 has KU circled, especially in our road games. But, we've dealt with that pretty much forever and our guys know that going in. No excuses.
At the end of the day though, sports are played by humans and we've seen before that CBB games played during holidays, or on Saturday mornings, or in empty buildings can affect players/teams. All 3 of those things were true against Texas and we were rightly clowned.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:59 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I also don't know where UT was during the previous weeks, but I know our guys had about 10 days off and were spread out all over the country with family/friends chugging full bottles of Jack in their alternate unis.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:13 pm
by Deleted User 89
don’t care who it was...if you can’t “get up” for a top 10 opponent you’ve got issues
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:24 pm
by chiknbut
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:52 pm
I don't really buy into the "it's their Super Bowl" narrative, like KU just doesn't care about the game. If KU is going into any games, outside of actual exhibition games, with a who cares attitude, then a bad shooting game is the least of the worries when it comes to this team.
Fair enough. But it's also safe to say that this game saved Shaka's job. He was playing for that as well.
It was a bad game for KU. That shit happens. They didn't take Texas lightly, they just played badly. And Texas had everything to win and nothing to lose.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:48 pm
by Deleted User 62
Texas ran the game at a pretty frenetic pace. KU looked rushed the entire game, IMO
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:37 am
by pdub
Kenpom we're still 'struggling' - falling behind our AP rank at 12.
Also ( largely because we have had so many close games ) our luck ranking is the highest it has ever been at 18th.
"KenPom defines this as a measure of the deviation between a team's actual winning percentage and what one would expect from its game-by-game efficiencies. Essentially, a team involved in a lot of close games should not win (or lose) all of them. Those that do will be viewed as lucky (or unlucky)."
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:41 am
by NewtonHawk11
KU at 6.
Baylor at 2. Texas at 4. West Va at 13. Tech at 15. oSu at 34.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:47 am
by pdub
And Kenpom:
Baylor 2. Texas 6. Kansas 12. Tech 13. West Virginia 14. OSU 35. OU 42.
ksu 157. just trailing 5-6 LaSalle and 6-5 Hofstra.
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:26 pm
by Deleted User 89
surely weberace is out, right?
Re: Top 25 polls
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:30 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Yeah I think Big 12 has 2 new coaches next year. Iowa State and kstate will be hiring new coaches.