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Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:17 am
by Deleted User 62
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:04 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:57 am i prefer lupe fiasco
Kick. Push. Coast.
Beat me to it!

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:05 am
by kubandalum
TDub wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:50 am My guess is 99% of people believed him until he was revealed to be a lying sack of shit trying to push an agenda. What a strange way to try and make a point. Very counterproductive in the end.
My guess is that a huge chunk of people decided to wait for more evidence to come in. Obviously that didn’t include celebrities, politicians, or the media.

Here’s a new twist:
http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/02/smoll ... rmous.html

Here are 17 reasons to wait before the evidence is in, and these are only from one year, and only from colleges and high schools:
https://www.thecollegefix.com/year-revi ... axes-2017/

Why do so many feel the need to invent racist incidents?

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 am
by Deleted User 75
Politics in 2019.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:46 am
by kubandalum
Here’s a bunch more, though 2 or 3 of these are in the above list of 17:
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/18/hoax ... imes-list/

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:26 pm
by kubandalum
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 am Politics in 2019.
Another possibility:
https://www.city-journal.org/jussie-smollett-bigotry

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:32 pm
by Deleted User 62
kubandalum wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:26 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 am Politics in 2019.
Another possibility:
https://www.city-journal.org/jussie-smollett-bigotry
Seems pretty impartial.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 pm
by Deleted User 75
Interesting facts in there

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:55 pm
by Deleted User 62
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 pm Interesting facts in there
"Facts"?

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:59 pm
by Deleted User 75
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:55 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 pm Interesting facts in there
"Facts"?
Statistics.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:30 am
by Deleted User 183
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:59 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:55 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 pm Interesting facts in there
"Facts"?
Statistics.
Don't sell yourself short Illini. There are some facts in that article. A lot of opinion and some "statistics" but there are facts too.
Jeeper is a smart man. He could find them if he so chose to do as such.

Is what I am about to type "fact/s" or "opinion/s"? I'll let others be the judge.
As I alluded to in my first post on this thread, many (most?) white people were quick to be skeptical from day 1. Many (most) black people tended to believe him. I wonder why. Actually, I don't wonder at all.
I'm a white man and I will never pretend I know what it's like to be a black man in today's America.
"Hate crime" is real. Too real. Meanwhile, it seems this "hate crime" was as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
Dangerous stuff. Both real "hate crime/s) and fake "hate crime/s".
I will tell you right now, shit goes down in this (Chicago) city because of what does or doesn't ultimately transpire from this - and Jussie Smollett is going to experience real "hatred" - the likes of nothing he could ever imagine. He will never be able to show his face in public without major ridicule. Then I would like to hear him answer if it was truly worth it.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:04 am
by Deleted User 75
You've got facts in there.

Honestly, I believed him 100% when it came out. I didn't do any investigating, probably just saw a meme ( ;-) ), but I really didn't think I had any reason not to believe the story.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:18 am
by Deleted User 183
Big difference between flat-out believing he was lying and being skeptical. I was very skeptical - but then again, I am a very skeptical person by nature.
From the beginning there were things that just didn't add up and of course "the media" was quick to report different things that were contradictory.
Can't go in to details right now because I'm running late for work but I may explain later.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:45 am
by Deleted User 62
"In 2017, the FBI reported an additional 1,000 hate crimes from 2016, for a total of 7,000. But an additional 1,000 police agencies participated in hate-crime reporting in 2017, as Reason’s Robby Soave has pointed out, so it’s not clear that that increase is real or simply a result of more reporting. Even if real, 7,000 “hate crimes” in a country this large is an infinitesimal number"

So much handier when "facts" come in nice, round numbers.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:39 am
by Deleted User 89
Even if real, 7,000 “hate crimes” in a country this large is an infinitesimal number

i'm sure the victims of those crimes don't mind their pain and suffering, since, ya know, 7k is such an infinitesimal minority of the whole

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:32 am
by DCHawk1
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:04 am You've got facts in there.
No he doesn't.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:34 am
by DCHawk1
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:39 am Even if real, 7,000 “hate crimes” in a country this large is an infinitesimal number

i'm sure the victims of those crimes don't mind their pain and suffering, since, ya know, 7k is such an infinitesimal minority of the whole
You should ask who the victims and the perpetrators are.

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:50 am
by dolomite
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:37 pm
TDub wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:55 pm [Url[https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entert ... cnn.com%2F[/url]
When the police released evidence that he orchestrated the attack against himself????
I didn't see any mention of evidence.
evidence, Schmedivence, we don't need any stinkin' evidence, right?

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:51 am
by Deleted User 89
dolomite wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:50 am
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:37 pm
TDub wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:55 pm [Url[https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entert ... cnn.com%2F[/url]
When the police released evidence that he orchestrated the attack against himself????
I didn't see any mention of evidence.
evidence, Schmedivence, we don't need any stinkin' evidence, right?
you seem to bury your head in the sand when there is evidence that doesn't fit your narrative, so...

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:09 am
by dolomite
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:51 am
dolomite wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:50 am
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:37 pm

I didn't see any mention of evidence.
evidence, Schmedivence, we don't need any stinkin' evidence, right?
you seem to bury your head in the sand when there is evidence that doesn't fit your narrative, so...
You're talking about cops right?

Re: Jussie Smollett

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:17 pm
by Deleted User 183