Oh boy NIKE in trouble

[CrimsonNBlue]

Arizona won't move the needle. That is like Louisville firing Pitino. It was news for about 24 hrs and it was business as usual after. Now you have dirt on UNC and Duke that is a whole different story.

But if he has evidence of Nike paying Ayton, it may make them open up Nike's books. Then that's where the Duke's and UNC's could show up.

I agree, saying Ayton got paid won't move the needle, but it may move if you can prove who did pay him.

True but I have a strong feeling that Nike / NCAA will protect UNC and Duke at all costs. This isn't what the NCAA wants. Everything was working fine in their eyes. The NCAA wants to deal with 'amateur' athletes not play detective and potentially F over some of the their biggest cash cows.

It really behooves the NCAA to protect everyone, including Ville and KU. I think that's Fish's point in saying the more stuff that comes out about everyone, the less likely the NCAA is going to scapegoat a couple of programs. The NCAA needs/wants to paint of picture of widespread non-NCAA corruption, paint the schools as victims, and scapegoat the assistants that are taking plea deals.

[NewtonHawk11]

Yea, agree with holiday: Duke, UNC, UK have nothing to worry about.

And I think to an extent, Kansas doesn't have much to worry about either outside of De Sousa suspension that will likely be reduced some.

[jfish26]

I don't want to see anyone punished at all.

I do think the likelihood of us punished goes down as the number (and profile) of other implicated schools goes up.

[NDballer13]

And just think, Louisville lost a season and a title because a couple of strippers.

[Deleted User 75]

Is that why they told us to hold off on punishing Self and/or Townsend until they can be involved in that punishment or give out their punishment first?...(because we've got nothing to worry about? LOL)

Kansas has plenty to be worried about as things sit right now....but if this Nike stuff catches fire that could help us on our end of things.

If Avenatti doesn't, or is unable to, "burn Nike to the ground" along with the Adidas dumpster fire that we are caught up in, then I could see Kansas/Self/Townsend facing some pretty harsh penalties (classify harsh however you see fit).

[jfish26]

And just think, Louisville lost a season and a title because a couple of strippers.

Kelvin Sampson has something to say.

Via text, most likely.

[Lonestarjayhawk]

As stupid as Adidas executives appeared in the trial, they would not be bidding against themselves. IF they paid Preston $90k, someone had to bid $85k. That is how autions work. The only company that could outbid Adidas would be Nice.

[DCHawk1]

Clearly Under Armour couldn't outbid adidas. That's why we got Silvio...

[NewtonHawk11]

And just think, Louisville lost a season and a title because a couple of strippers.

Kelvin Sampson has something to say.

Via text, most likely.

Well done.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Now you have dirt on Duke that is a whole different story.

DOJ got 'eem!

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/duke-uni ... ns-related

[DrPepper]

Cool. The whistleblower in the Duke mouse lab just made $34million for his/her share in this case.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Cool. The whistleblower in the Duke mouse lab just made $34million for his/her share in this case.

Former lab tech. Grad schools pays off!

[jfish26]

Can't play basketball anymore tho

[hartjack8]

Look at the 2017 class. Bowen ranked what #19 and Preston #20 both confirmed they got paid. Yea by addias but look at all the guys ranked higher. Duke got 4 and UK got 5 that is 9 out of 18.

This really got out of hand when Coach Cal took over UK. Cal a professional sleaze ball. Only one coach could have more pull with Nike. Love for this thing to get real. Yes Nike bought #1 #2 and #3 recruits this year for Coach K but he is a HOF coach so he needs the best. I think that was some of Pitino's problem. His brain was telling him " What we just trying to get one of the top 20. Go talk to the guy that has 5 of them"

[surly]

Let high school recruits go to the league. Let high school recruits/college players be paid by third parties, like Adidas, directly. And let the leagues negotiate shoe/apparel contracts rather than schools. Do that and all these issues go away. Plus, athletes are compensated ethically based on a free and open market costing schools nothing.

[twocoach]

Let high school recruits go to the league. Let high school recruits/college players be paid by third parties, like Adidas, directly. And let the leagues negotiate shoe/apparel contracts rather than schools. Do that and all these issues go away. Plus, athletes are compensated ethically based on a free and open market costing schools nothing.

How does giving DeSousa a shoe contract make his guardian not take money? It doesn't.

How does giving a player a shoe contract make an assistant coach not accept a bribe to try to to steer the player to a financial advisor? It doesn't.

You're so naive. Giving players more options (considering going to NBA in addition to considering which college to choose) just ups the amount bad actors will be willing to pay. If every single player in the Top 50 goes to the NBA then shoe companies, runners and agents will just target the players from 50-100.

[Lonestarjayhawk]

Let the NBA team draft them and pay them.

But that still doesn't clean up everything. But it take 80% of the smell away. Let's see if we can live with the remaining 20%...

[jfish26]

Let high school recruits go to the league. Let high school recruits/college players be paid by third parties, like Adidas, directly. And let the leagues negotiate shoe/apparel contracts rather than schools. Do that and all these issues go away. Plus, athletes are compensated ethically based on a free and open market costing schools nothing.

How does giving DeSousa a shoe contract make his guardian not take money? It doesn't.

(Because if a player can get money directly, then (a) there's less incentive for the player to seek it indirectly, (b) there's less incentive for the person paying it to pay it indirectly, and (c) there's less money to go to weird third parties.)

How does giving a player a shoe contract make an assistant coach not accept a bribe to try to to steer the player to a financial advisor? It doesn't.

(Because if a player can get money directly, then (a) the player can be directly incentivized to go somewhere, (b) there's less incentive to pay an assistant coach to try to steer a player somewhere, and (c) there's less money to go to weird third parties.)

You're so naive. Giving players more options (considering going to NBA in addition to considering which college to choose) just ups the amount bad actors will be willing to pay. If every single player in the Top 50 goes to the NBA then shoe companies, runners and agents will just target the players from 50-100.

(I can't see how letting the players get money directly would possibly result in the amount being paid to or through weird third parties. Letting players get money directly would absolutely reduce the involvement of weird third parties.)

See bolded answers above.

[twocoach]

Let the NBA team draft them and pay them.

But that still doesn't clean up everything. But it take 80% of the smell away. Let's see if we can live with the remaining 20%...

All that does is change the ranking number next to the guys who are getting illegal benefits.

[twocoach]

Let high school recruits go to the league. Let high school recruits/college players be paid by third parties, like Adidas, directly. And let the leagues negotiate shoe/apparel contracts rather than schools. Do that and all these issues go away. Plus, athletes are compensated ethically based on a free and open market costing schools nothing.

How does giving DeSousa a shoe contract make his guardian not take money? It doesn't.

(Because if a player can get money directly, then (a) there's less incentive for the player to seek it indirectly, (b) there's less incentive for the person paying it to pay it indirectly, and (c) there's less money to go to weird third parties.)

How does giving a player a shoe contract make an assistant coach not accept a bribe to try to to steer the player to a financial advisor? It doesn't.

(Because if a player can get money directly, then (a) the player can be directly incentivized to go somewhere, (b) there's less incentive to pay an assistant coach to try to steer a player somewhere, and (c) there's less money to go to weird third parties.)

You're so naive. Giving players more options (considering going to NBA in addition to considering which college to choose) just ups the amount bad actors will be willing to pay. If every single player in the Top 50 goes to the NBA then shoe companies, runners and agents will just target the players from 50-100.

(I can't see how letting the players get money directly would possibly result in the amount being paid to or through weird third parties. Letting players get money directly would absolutely reduce the involvement of weird third parties.)

See bolded answers above.

A player getting money from a shoe company has ZERO effect on cases where an assistant coach is bribed to try to push the kid to a financial advisor. Those players having more money in their pocket does not affect that one bit. If anything, it increases the pool of sharks trying to get a bite out of them because now they actually have some cash that needs to be managed combined with little clue of what to do with it. That's a shady financial advisor's dream scenario; clueless people with newfound money.