Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:57 am There’s two conversations, right? A specific one, and a general one.

As for the specifics - it is 100% certain that we did things that were not 100% compliant with the rules. So we’ll start there. But unless the NCAA has a case of sudden-onset-rationality, it won’t matter that, practically speaking, we handled both the Preston and De Sousa situations about as conservatively as you can. It also won’t matter whether what we were doing was normal or some number of standard deviations away from normal. We’re at the whim of the Committee on Infractions and, eventually, whatever the appeals committee is called.

This isn’t about rules anymore, but politics within a flagging organization.

Which is the more general conversation.

The NCAA is going to lose. It’s going to lose in the courts, it’s going to lose in state and federal legislative bodies, it’s going to lose in the papers and it’s going to lose in the wallet. So, as an organization, there’s two paths: adapt or die. The ritual sacrifice of a bell cow program (but not quite the most indispensable program) tells you what path the current powers that be seem intent on taking.

If we’re spared a very serious blow to the program’s short- and medium-term viability, it will not be because we were *right*, but because rationality won inside NCAA headquarters. So, not much reason to be optimistic.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:30 am I would rather have what has already happened taken away.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:59 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:30 am I would rather have what has already happened taken away.

Of course, yes. It's trite, but you can't make me forget the Duke win, etc.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:40 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:59 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:30 am I would rather have what has already happened taken away.

Of course, yes. It's trite, but you can't make me forget the Duke win, etc.

Speaking of Duke, how pissed are we gonna be if Kansas is the school that takes the fall for Zion?

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:47 pm Not at all. As someone said earlier “we were sloppy and we got busted.” We should be better at this.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:05 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:40 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:59 am

Of course, yes. It's trite, but you can't make me forget the Duke win, etc.

Speaking of Duke, how pissed are we gonna be if Kansas is the school that takes the fall for Zion?

Very pissed, of course. And, it will happen as it has happened in the past.

The penalties assessed by the Committee on Infractions are excessive, unjustified and the result of a failed investigation and enforcement regime. We will vigorously assert and defend all of our rights, including in the courts if necessary.

We expect to prevail in this matter.

We also think it is long past time for our sport to have an honest and candid conversation about the piece of the pie that is going to student-athletes. While we maintain that the educational opportunities and other benefits afforded our student-athletes are worth significantly more than the sticker price of tuition, room and board, it is clear from the atmosphere prevalent in high school-level basketball that the student-athletes have market value well in excess of what we can provide.

We fully support, and will add our voice to, the growing calls for student-athletes to be free to profit from their name, image and likeness. We strongly believe that an open market, with proper disclosure and protections, will be the best defense against the influences presently corrupting our sport.