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Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:22 pm
by randylahey
Not expecting yesefu, pettiford, cuffe, or clemence back. Maybe 1 or 2

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:24 pm
by Deleted User 863
randylahey wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:22 pm Not expecting yesefu, pettiford, cuffe, or clemence back. Maybe 1 or 2
I hope we help find Clemence a good home, especially since we are trying to get Cam another year. Clemence is not good enough to be a main rotational piece at a program with expectations like KU.

Cuffe is just along for the ride. I don't think he ever expects to contribute with DH here.

I hope Yesufu stays and Bobby leaves if we can only keep 1 of the 2.

I hope MJ Rice stays.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:26 pm
by Sparko
Zach is absolutely good enough. He can shoot. See today.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:33 pm
by Deleted User 863
Sparko wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:26 pm Zach is absolutely good enough. He can shoot. See today.
Nah fam.

Zach can't play defense. Not the 5. Not the 4. He can shoot, but they usually miss.

Udeh and Zuby are the 5s of the future.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:27 am
by KUTradition
here’s hoping Elmarko (or one of the other incoming guards) can provide some offensive lift

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:35 am
by InfiniteJ
Given the landscape of college basketball, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone other than Dajuan, KJ and probably Ernest, transfer out.

Jalen will be off to play overseas, Gradey will be a top 10 draft pick, but for some reason I can see McCullar coming back...I know he did a Senior speech and all that, but I get the weird feeling that there's a decent chance at getting a Super Senior year out of him.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:40 am
by randylahey
Idk why you guys are assuming elmarko is gonna be ready day one next season

We did this shit with mj rice this season, I was one of the only people before the season that said he was raw and probably wouldn't be a big contributor this season with our depth

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:42 am
by randylahey
If either Bobby and/or yesefu are back, ekmarko will be behind them in the rotation, At least for awhile. They've got 2 years at KU already, and elmarko is fresh outta high school

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:43 am
by randylahey
InfiniteJ wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:35 am Given the landscape of college basketball, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone other than Dajuan, KJ and probably Ernest, transfer out.

Jalen will be off to play overseas, Gradey will be a top 10 draft pick, but for some reason I can see McCullar coming back...I know he did a Senior speech and all that, but I get the weird feeling that there's a decent chance at getting a Super Senior year out of him.
No. Zero chance he comes back

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:02 am
by pdub
Jalen is getting drafted.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:54 pm
by shindig
I just don’t see GD as a top draft, I don’t know. He needs another year under Self, IMO. Plus he’s always wanted to play for KU, so maybe that and losing in the second round will keep him at KU another year. He needs to bulk up and be more aggressive.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:44 pm
by jfish26
shindig wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:54 pm I just don’t see GD as a top draft, I don’t know. He needs another year under Self, IMO. Plus he’s always wanted to play for KU, so maybe that and losing in the second round will keep him at KU another year. He needs to bulk up and be more aggressive.
The problem (for us) is that he’s ready to play in the NBA right now. And his skillet is such that he’ll absolutely be picked in the 11-20 range.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:22 pm
by Back2Lawrence
Why would he not go pro? Delaying a year will almost certainly cost him lots and lots of money. Either next year, or towards end of career, whenever that might be. Wanting kids to stay in school is dumb.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:23 pm
by ousdahl

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:29 pm
by jfish26
Back2Lawrence wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:22 pm Why would he not go pro? Delaying a year will almost certainly cost him lots and lots of money. Either next year, or towards end of career, whenever that might be. Wanting kids to stay in school is dumb.
Maybe yes, maybe no. I think a mid-teens pick is in line for a rookie salary in the $4-5mm range. Would Gradey get there in NIL by staying? Probably not.

But, would what Gradey can get in NIL, plus all the “soft” reasons college is better/more fun, plus the possibility of moving up in the draft* for a higher rookie salary in 2024-25, move the needle enough?

It’s at least possible. And I would like that very much. I would prefer Gradey play for KU next year, rather than some mid NBA team (because I am a fan of KU, not NBA teams).

* Absent catastrophic injury, his floor is in the teens, whenever it is he comes out.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:32 pm
by shindig
Back2Lawrence wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:22 pm Why would he not go pro? Delaying a year will almost certainly cost him lots and lots of money. Either next year, or towards end of career, whenever that might be. Wanting kids to stay in school is dumb.
“Wanting kids to stay in school is dumb”? I’m guessing you dropped out after you failed Psych 101 at KU. Dumb ass.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:39 pm
by NewtonHawk11
We’re going to run into a number crunch soon. Scholarship reduction, 4 recruits coming in.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:41 pm
by jfish26
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:39 pm We’re going to run into a number crunch soon. Scholarship reduction, 4 recruits coming in.
Makes me nervous about how we used - well, didn’t use - Rice this year.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:51 pm
by shindig
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:39 pm We’re going to run into a number crunch soon. Scholarship reduction, 4 recruits coming in.
Guessing some scholarship players won’t be back.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:56 pm
by shindig
jfish26 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:29 pm
Back2Lawrence wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:22 pm Why would he not go pro? Delaying a year will almost certainly cost him lots and lots of money. Either next year, or towards end of career, whenever that might be. Wanting kids to stay in school is dumb.
Maybe yes, maybe no. I think a mid-teens pick is in line for a rookie salary in the $4-5mm range. Would Gradey get there in NIL by staying? Probably not.

But, would what Gradey can get in NIL, plus all the “soft” reasons college is better/more fun, plus the possibility of moving up in the draft* for a higher rookie salary in 2024-25, move the needle enough?

It’s at least possible. And I would like that very much. I would prefer Gradey play for KU next year, rather than some mid NBA team (because I am a fan of KU, not NBA teams).

* Absent catastrophic injury, his floor is in the teens, whenever it is he comes out.
^^. I think Gradey tests the waters, all depends on how he does in NBA combines. Might come back he needs another year for a lottery pick. I just don’t think he’s there yet. But NBA scouts might think different and if so, good for him.