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Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:47 pm
by ousdahl
and is there anything - anything at all - that would make the right think there might be more to it than a witch hunt?

What sort of news would it take?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:50 pm
by Deleted User 318
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:42 pm Would a NY ag be in a position to drop a timely politic zinger?
As the NY AG has jurisdiction of the Trump Organization, Trump Charities, and likely some Trumps, then absolutely. Also state crimes can't be pardoned by the president, so it might be safer to have any investigations going through state right now instead of federal court (SDNY stuff hasn't been talked about much here, but Berman testifying right now). If anything is removed to federal courts, it likely will be after January, and hopefully a new administration will be fair and everyone will have their day in court.

The more I'm thinking about this, and if there are no more challenges available to GJ Subpoenas, then this truly is a bad day for POTUS. Likely the public won't know what's going on for a while.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:55 pm
by Deleted User 318
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:47 pm and is there anything - anything at all - that would make the right think there might be more to it than a witch hunt?

What sort of news would it take?
I don't think the rank and file sycophants have the nuance to dig into what's going on in tax returns. They will brush it off as "good accounting" or "a smart businessman."

Those who have the sophistication likely already have skin in the game, and will downplay in hopes to be overlooked in the future.

There's just not going to be anything tangible that isn't already purposeful loopholes that are going to be the smoking gun. It's just going to be more of what we already know. Somewhat related from yesterday:

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom ... udget-cuts
...CBO found that the estimated amount of taxes owed but ultimately unpaid was $381 billion on average annually from 2011 to 2013 according to the latest data from the IRS. The tax gap is almost certainly substantially higher given that the total revenue collected has gone up by more than a third since that time. A recent academic study found that roughly 70% of the gap is explained by underpayment of the top 1%. ...

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:09 pm
by ousdahl
Leave Japhy out of this!

and in other news, scotus says half of Oklahoma is Native American land...

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:23 am
by jfish26
NiceDC wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:55 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:47 pm and is there anything - anything at all - that would make the right think there might be more to it than a witch hunt?

What sort of news would it take?
I don't think the rank and file sycophants have the nuance to dig into what's going on in tax returns. They will brush it off as "good accounting" or "a smart businessman."

Those who have the sophistication likely already have skin in the game, and will downplay in hopes to be overlooked in the future.

There's just not going to be anything tangible that isn't already purposeful loopholes that are going to be the smoking gun. It's just going to be more of what we already know. Somewhat related from yesterday:

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom ... udget-cuts
...CBO found that the estimated amount of taxes owed but ultimately unpaid was $381 billion on average annually from 2011 to 2013 according to the latest data from the IRS. The tax gap is almost certainly substantially higher given that the total revenue collected has gone up by more than a third since that time. A recent academic study found that roughly 70% of the gap is explained by underpayment of the top 1%. ...
If it was just more of the same, he wouldn't let it be an issue this long.

I think the problem for him is that if he didn't commit state tax fraud, he committed state insurance fraud. And vice versa.

Neither of those things are pardonable.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:26 am
by Deleted User 318
jfish26 wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:23 am
If it was just more of the same, he wouldn't let it be an issue this long.

I think the problem for him is that if he didn't commit state tax fraud, he committed state insurance fraud. And vice versa.
I still think it's a red herring to put all the effort into getting these returns, which are likely not fraudulent enough to open up a full investigation. This is then also wasting resources and times while other crimes SoL runs out.
Neither of those things are pardonable.
Cuomo heel turn

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm
by ousdahl
Dang, RBG has cancer again

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:34 pm
by Deleted User 318
ousdahl wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm Dang, RBG has cancer again
Colon, pancreatic, lung, and liver cancer. One more and she gets a free sandwich.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:37 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm Dang, RBG has cancer again
I hope she stays healthy and on the court for as long as possible but she made it long enough to avoid having her replacement chosen by Trump.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:42 pm
by Deleted User 318
twocoach wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:37 pm but she made it long enough to avoid having her replacement chosen by Trump.
There would a confirmation in less than two weeks if she indeed passes. Especially with Graham on Judiciary and Mitch leading the senate.

Luckily her will states she must be puppeted a la Weekend at Bernies through Jan 2021.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:44 pm
by ousdahl
ugh.

RIP Merrill Garland.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:00 pm
by Geezer
NiceDC wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:42 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:37 pm but she made it long enough to avoid having her replacement chosen by Trump.
There would a confirmation in less than two weeks if she indeed passes. Especially with Graham on Judiciary and Mitch leading the senate.

Luckily her will states she must be puppeted a la Weekend at Bernies through Jan 2021.
No doubt.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:08 am
by ousdahl
Supreme Court OKs White House Request To Limit Abortion Pill Access During Pandemic

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/13/95627923 ... ring-pande

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:45 am
by ousdahl
(One word really sticks out)

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/09/98573891 ... urt-reform

President Biden signed an executive order Friday setting up a bipartisan commission that will study U.S. Supreme Court reform, and, among other things, examine the size of the court and the justices' lifetime appointments.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:36 am
by Cascadia
ALL lifetime appointments are dumb.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:11 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:36 am ALL lifetime appointments are dumb.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:24 pm
by TDub
Even Bill Self's?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:25 pm
by Cascadia
I know you like to specialize in dumb, but Bill Self doesn't have a Lifetime Appointment to be the head coach at the University of Kansas. He has a 5 year roll-over contract.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:30 pm
by TDub
Way to read the room, move along now.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:23 pm
by Leawood
Lifetime appointments to the federal courts is a good idea. The confirmation process is what has become controversial.