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Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:06 pm
by jhawks99
Me either. But I hate this ruling. To me it's no different than saying Walgreen's does not have to serve black people at their lunch counter.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:07 pm
by ousdahl
I think 99’s gripe is a whole different 1st amendment question that I too wish would be brought:


Why should churches be exempt from taxes?

If they are, why should they be eligible to receive taxpayer handouts for anything from adoption services to covid relief?

“make no law respecting an establishment of religion” comes before “prohibit the free exercise thereof”

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:09 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:07 pm I think 99’s gripe is a whole different 1st amendment question that I too wish would be brought:


Why should churches be exempt from taxes?

If they are, why should they be eligible to receive taxpayer handouts for anything from adoption services to covid relief?

“make no law respecting an establishment of religion” comes before “prohibit the free exercise thereof”
I agree they shouldn't have gotten Covid relief.

CSS is a charitable organization though if I'm not mistaken. So, it's not a church, though it is affiliated with one.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:13 pm
by ousdahl
Oh yea, I suppose.

But heck, many of the constitutional questions would be moot if they’d just open a criminal investigation into the church’s systemic child molestation.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:16 pm
by Overlander
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:13 pm Oh yea, I suppose.

But heck, many of the constitutional questions would be moot if they’d just open a criminal investigation into the church’s systemic child molestation.
I wonder what going price for cute brown kids is now that the supply of incoming "orphans" has been reduced?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:21 pm
by ousdahl
Jeeebus.

Speaking of, and totally related, more and more remains of indigenous kids are showing up at “residential schools” in Canada.

And apparently, residential schools are mandatory boarding schools to assimilate indigenous kids into dominant Canadian culture, funded by the Canadian gummint and administered by Christian churches.

Just for a moment, stop and pretend the remains of white kids were being found…

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:00 am
by sdoyel

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:27 am
by ousdahl
New term!

Who’s ready for some guns god and abortion lulz?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:28 pm
by zsn
You forgot White Supremacy

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:33 pm
by jfish26
The chutzpah, my goodness.

Opinion: Mitch McConnell: Democrats, leave the Supreme Court alone

Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is the Senate minority leader.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... democrats/
The president’s decision in April to stand up this commission was no isolated event. Naked attempts to bully judges have become a core priority for today’s Democratic Party.

Early last year, my Democratic counterpart, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), joined activists on the steps of the Supreme Court and threatened two justices by name should they disappoint liberals with a particular ruling.

A few months before that, as The Post reported, sitting Senate Democrats, including the now-chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sent the court an outrageous amicus brief that read like a ransom note from junior-varsity mafiosos. “The Supreme Court is not well,” they threatened, “and the people know it. Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be ‘restructured. …’”

In other words: Nice independent judiciary you’ve got there. Sure would be a shame if something happened to it.

[...]

Even if Democrats fail at structurally changing the court, they could still succeed at applying improper pressure. The left wants to prey on justices’ instincts to protect their institution by having “court reform” hang over them like a sword of Damocles. The left hopes that a manufactured cloud of fake concerns about the court’s legitimacy may be enough to change which cases the court decides to hear, how it hears them and what rulings it hands down.

But if the justices fell into Democrats’ trap and let political threats change legal outcomes, they would not be shoring up their institution, but undermining it. It would poison the actual source of the court’s legitimacy — its impartiality. Moreover, appeasement would not even end the threats and reckless tactics. It would guarantee more. Hostage-takers will not settle for half a loaf.

The Senate exists to defeat shortsighted proposals and protect our institutions from structural vandalism. That is our job. The American people need their judges to do theirs: follow the law wherever it may lead, independent and unafraid.

Biden campaigned on unity and moderation. He won a close victory with an evenly split Senate and negative coattails in the House.

As this month’s elections confirmed, Americans did not hand Democrats any mandate to let radicals transform the country. And they certainly have no mandate to permanently damage the rule of law.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:29 pm
by Leawood
I think the Supreme Court, in this age of electronic communication, understands the notion of maintaining stability in the law. I’m just somewhat disappointed in Breyer.

Let things play out.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:31 pm
by zsn
There are so many falsehoods, obfuscation and spinning that I don’t know where to start. One place would be “Mitch, if there’s one person who shares about 90% of the blame it’s a Senator whose name starts with ’M’ and ends with ‘Connell’

Hopefully Roberts views his legacy as worth preserving.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:46 pm
by Deleted User 89
apparently, we can totally do away with abortion because…adoption

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:36 pm
by ousdahl
Been waiting for a bump to this thread. Could be lots of action to come.

https://twitter.com/cecilerichards/stat ... 02723?s=21

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:39 pm
by Cascadia
Kavanaugh is a scumbag, who knew?!

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:46 pm
by Deleted User 863
How can we be sure the fetus doesn't want to be aborted?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:58 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:46 pm How can we be sure the fetus doesn't want to be aborted?
I have posted in length about how I was adopted. I offended at least one person when I said I probably should have been aborted - and there have been times when I wish I was. With what I feel is/was good/legitimate reason/s.
I admit I will probably have mixed feelings about that for the rest of my life.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:00 pm
by Deleted User 863
We know what the mother wants in these types of scenarios. But we don't know what the fetus wants. We assume the fetus wants to live. But maybe the fetus wants (in fantasy world where fetuses want things) to do what is best for its' mother?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:31 pm
by zsn
In a very cynical way I’m rooting for the SCOTUS to overturn Roe and kick it to the States. We’ll have a clear sorting out of pro-choice and forced-birth States. More importantly it would remove one of two or three things which Republicans actually want to work on. This way the main thing they would be left with is White Supremacy. It would likely stop bringing the single issue voters to the polls, and at least then the extremists like MTG and Boebert will stop getting elected

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:30 pm
by jfish26
zsn wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:31 pm In a very cynical way I’m rooting for the SCOTUS to overturn Roe and kick it to the States. We’ll have a clear sorting out of pro-choice and forced-birth States. More importantly it would remove one of two or three things which Republicans actually want to work on. This way the main thing they would be left with is White Supremacy. It would likely stop bringing the single issue voters to the polls, and at least then the extremists like MTG and Boebert will stop getting elected
I hope so. But I also fear that the "winning" of culture wars has far exceeded in importance the substance of any particular front; if the lunatics "win" abortion, the lust for power and control may well just find a new host issue.