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Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:19 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:16 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:14 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:54 am
Yesufu is not a PG...he'll play some point, but he'll never take the starting spot from Harris.
Were any of Sherron (career high 5.7 A/40), Tyshawn (6.7), Frank (5.7) or Devon (4.6) really point guards, in the traditional sense?
Particularly since going four-out, our offense has really sung with lead guards who also hunt buckets. This is true even for Devonte (who did average 7.7 A/40) in his AA season.
I’d say that’s just an overall basketball trend.
Sure, absolutely, 100%. Borderline malpractice to
plan on having a lead guard who can't score.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:20 pm
by PhDhawk
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:14 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:54 am
Yesufu is not a PG...he'll play some point, but he'll never take the starting spot from Harris.
Were any of Sherron (career high 5.7 A/40), Tyshawn (6.7), Frank (5.7) or Devon (4.6) really point guards, in the traditional sense?
Particularly since going four-out, our offense has really sung with lead guards who also hunt buckets. This is true even for Devonte (who did average 7.7 A/40) in his AA season.
Well I think Self wants 2 of those.
Russ/chalmers, taylor/ Collins, taylor/too strong, mason/graham, graham/malik...
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:22 pm
by jfish26
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:20 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:14 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:54 am
Yesufu is not a PG...he'll play some point, but he'll never take the starting spot from Harris.
Were any of Sherron (career high 5.7 A/40), Tyshawn (6.7), Frank (5.7) or Devon (4.6) really point guards, in the traditional sense?
Particularly since going four-out, our offense has really sung with lead guards who also hunt buckets. This is true even for Devonte (who did average 7.7 A/40) in his AA season.
Well I think Self wants 2 of those.
Russ/chalmers, taylor/ Collins, taylor/too strong, mason/graham, graham/malik...
No doubt. And so, last year for instance, having
zero of them is a fucking catastrophe of roster construction.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
by InfiniteJ
Bill thought Dot would still be around for last year...supposedly.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
What’s the statute of limitations in Kansas to sue Self for 2021?
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
Bill thought Dot would still be around for last year...supposedly.
There were a ton of eggs in the Cade Cunningham basket.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:26 pm
by InfiniteJ
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
Bill thought Dot would still be around for last year...supposedly.
There were a ton of eggs in the Cade Cunningham basket.
Dude, can you imagine? Last would have been insane.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:27 pm
by PhDhawk
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:22 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:20 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:14 pm
Were any of Sherron (career high 5.7 A/40), Tyshawn (6.7), Frank (5.7) or Devon (4.6) really point guards, in the traditional sense?
Particularly since going four-out, our offense has really sung with lead guards who also hunt buckets. This is true even for Devonte (who did average 7.7 A/40) in his AA season.
Well I think Self wants 2 of those.
Russ/chalmers, taylor/ Collins, taylor/too strong, mason/graham, graham/malik...
No doubt. And so, last year for instance, having
zero of them is a fucking catastrophe of roster construction.
We shoulda Texas tech'd last season. Just sold out on defense, played all our longest most atletic guys and just hope we could get to 50.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:30 pm
by Deleted User 863
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:54 am
Yesufu is not a PG...he'll play some point, but he'll never take the starting spot from Harris.
Bingo.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:31 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:27 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:22 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:20 pm
Well I think Self wants 2 of those.
Russ/chalmers, taylor/ Collins, taylor/too strong, mason/graham, graham/malik...
No doubt. And so, last year for instance, having
zero of them is a fucking catastrophe of roster construction.
We shoulda Texas tech'd last season. Just sold out on defense, played all our longest most atletic guys and just hope we could get to 50.
I would have rather played like we do this season.
Bill did sell out for defense starting in conference and took the air out of the ball. Margin for error was razor thin. Bad Dave game meant a big loss.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:34 pm
by Deleted User 863
DH only averages 2pts less per game this season than RussRob did his Junior and Senior seasons.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:39 pm
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:34 pm
DH only averages 2pts less per game this season than RussRob did his Junior and Senior seasons.
Few more mpg for DH and RR more efficient. Higher eFG% and TS%.
The stronger more relevant argument for DH is that he's a more efficient shooter than Yes.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:46 pm
by jfish26
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:34 pm
DH only averages 2pts less per game this season than RussRob did his Junior and Senior seasons.
As sophomores (noting than Harris took a RS), per-40s:
Pts / Ast / Reb / Stl+Blk
Harris
7.1 / 5.9 / 2.8 / 3.5
.472 / .292 / .800 (1.2 FTA/40)
Robinson
13.0 / 6.5 / 4.4 / 3.9
.396 / .322 / .742 (5.3 FTA/40)
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:48 pm
by Cascadia
RussRob was a better defender than DH by a wide margin.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:49 pm
by Qusdahl
RR shot a better percentage from deep on more attempts.
RR also had about 30 pounds of muscle on Dajuan.
also gonna say the *checks notes* 7 NBA players in waiting that surrounded RR 2-5 and on the bench were productive enough that RR didn’t have to do more.
Not sure we have that kinda talent surrounding Dajuan.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:51 pm
by Cascadia
Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:49 pm
RR shot a better percentage from deep on more attempts.
RR also had about 30 pounds of muscle on Dajuan.
also gonna say the *checks notes* 7 NBA players in waiting that surrounded RR 2-5 and on the bench were productive enough that RR didn’t have to do more.
Not sure we have that kinda talent surrounding Dajuan.
I would argue that one of RussRob's best attributes was that he knew his place. He found his lane and stayed in it.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:52 pm
by jfish26
Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:48 pm
RussRob was a better defender than DH by a wide margin.
It helped that, at the college level, he could credibly guard two or three positions. It's not Harris' fault that he can get pushed around by nearly every high-major player.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:52 pm
by Qusdahl
Speaking of lane, RR was better at getting in it than Juan too
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:53 pm
by jfish26
Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:51 pm
Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:49 pm
RR shot a better percentage from deep on more attempts.
RR also had about 30 pounds of muscle on Dajuan.
also gonna say the *checks notes* 7 NBA players in waiting that surrounded RR 2-5 and on the bench were productive enough that RR didn’t have to do more.
Not sure we have that kinda talent surrounding Dajuan.
I would argue that one of RussRob's best attributes was that he knew his place. He found his lane and stayed in it.
Which isn't easy for a guy of his pedigree to do.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:59 pm
by PhDhawk
The other teams guarded russrob. I'm fine with Harris scoring zero points, if the other team guards him. It's only when they leave him alone that we need him to score.