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Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:30 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I think Hill's production depends more on his QB than some of the other guys.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021 ... r-rankings

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:31 pm
by pdub
My guys on that list too.

Let's cool our jets with Tee Higgins and Hunter Renfrow over DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Mike Evans and DeAndre Hopkins though.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:33 pm
by hasbeen
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:30 pm I think Hill's production depends more on his QB than some of the other guys.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021 ... r-rankings
Linking to something that has Lamb over Hill isn't actually helpful to your argument.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:40 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
hasbeen wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:33 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:30 pm I think Hill's production depends more on his QB than some of the other guys.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021 ... r-rankings
Linking to something that has Lamb over Hill isn't actually helpful to your argument.
What am I arguing?

It's purely statistical.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:42 pm
by hasbeen
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:40 pm
hasbeen wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:33 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:30 pm I think Hill's production depends more on his QB than some of the other guys.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021 ... r-rankings
Linking to something that has Lamb over Hill isn't actually helpful to your argument.
What am I arguing?

It's purely statistical.
That's a pretty crimscore-y way to analyze and rank, and not something you do with basketball so was just a bit confused.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:48 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
hasbeen wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:42 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:40 pm
hasbeen wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:33 pm

Linking to something that has Lamb over Hill isn't actually helpful to your argument.
What am I arguing?

It's purely statistical.
That's a pretty crimscore-y way to analyze and rank, and not something you do with basketball so was just a bit confused.
Should have been more clear, I think the stats and that blurb on Hill kind of back up that Hill's raw production took a hit this past season, in large part, imo, because Mahomes didn't have a stellar season (for Mahomes).

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:56 pm
by UnholyLivingDead

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:59 pm
by pdub
Led 2020 in yards per reception - has top end speed - not Hill speed but no one does.
That's an overpay but I think Hill put us in a tough spot.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:06 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
I mean, he's gotta be an upgrade over Hardman and Robinson at least, right?

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:08 pm
by Cascadia
Great fucking move

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:09 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Fine with MVS. When healthy, a really good deep threat. Doesn't do much else then deep and slants, but that's about all you need.

Other news, Chiefs getting the 2023 NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:10 pm
by NewtonHawk11
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:06 pm I mean, he's gotta be an upgrade over Hardman and Robinson at least, right?
He's probably a bit better than Hardman and much better than Robinson.

Chiefs also a near-lock to get Ronald Jones from Tampa. Apparently visit going really well with him.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:12 pm
by Cascadia
JuJu, Hardman, MVS is a nice core. If Josh Gordon has anything left that would be a very good group

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:13 pm
by NewtonHawk11
That's their FA signing. Now they're going to get a WR in one of their 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:16 pm
by Cascadia
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:13 pm That's their FA signing. Now they're going to get a WR in one of their 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.
Agreed

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:16 pm
by NewtonHawk11
MVS only player in the last 3 seasons to be in the Top 10 of yards per catch each season. He's a deep threat in every sense of the word.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:17 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
What MVS does well only gets enhanced by playing with Mahomes.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:22 pm
by Cascadia
He’s also 6’4”

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:45 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:17 pm What MVS does well only gets enhanced by playing with Mahomes.
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Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:48 pm
by ChicagoHawk
JuJu + MVS + 1st round WR is a good core, with Hardman still around as a deep/screen/gadget threat. Plus, as someone else said, there's an outside chance Gordon could still have something left in the tank as a depth/rotational WR.