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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:09 pm
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:03 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:00 pm And clearly there is nothing he could say or do that would cause rubes to cut bait.
Run somebody against him who I’d vote for?
I, personally, would LOVE to have a choice (dem or pub) also.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:58 pm
by JKLivin
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:09 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:03 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:00 pm And clearly there is nothing he could say or do that would cause rubes to cut bait.
Run somebody against him who I’d vote for?
I, personally, would LOVE to have a choice (dem or pub) also.
I think most people would.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:33 pm
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:58 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:09 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:03 pm

Run somebody against him who I’d vote for?
I, personally, would LOVE to have a choice (dem or pub) also.
I think most people would.
McConnell had a chance. He chose to press the bet on the midterms. And so here we are.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:46 pm
by Mjl
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:58 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:09 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:03 pm

Run somebody against him who I’d vote for?
I, personally, would LOVE to have a choice (dem or pub) also.
I think most people would.
Who do you want?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:55 pm
by JKLivin
Mjl wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:46 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:58 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:09 pm

I, personally, would LOVE to have a choice (dem or pub) also.
I think most people would.
Who do you want?
Someone who’ll give the globalists hell. Trey Gordy or Josh Hawley would be great, but I don’t think either would run.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:00 pm
by defixione
Hawley, the chambers sprinter?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:36 pm
by JKLivin
defixione wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:00 pm Hawley, the chambers sprinter?
Well, according to AOC, there was a bomb in her office, so better safe than sorry.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm
by Sparko
Biden has surprised me with the competence. An indicator of that is he is attacked for his age relentlessly but not the policies. China has about gone to the mat financially too, incidentally. Having a stable president has allowed the U.S. to lead the reset of the international order. If we can rid the Republicans of their Russia Today spin and policies, we might make real progress on important existential issues. In Texas it is extremely hot, but the grid has survived because it has been bolstered immensely by solar power by folks not listening to MAGA politicians here.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:43 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:36 pm
defixione wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:00 pm Hawley, the chambers sprinter?
Well, according to AOC, there was a bomb in her office, so better safe than sorry.
?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:51 pm
by JKLivin
Sparko wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm Biden has surprised me with the competence. An indicator of that is he is attacked for his age relentlessly but not the policies. China has about gone to the mat financially too, incidentally. Having a stable president has allowed the U.S. to lead the reset of the international order. If we can rid the Republicans of their Russia Today spin and policies, we might make real progress on important existential issues. In Texas it is extremely hot, but the grid has survived because it has been bolstered immensely by solar power by folks not listening to MAGA politicians here.
The same Biden on whose watch the Chinese have been buying up American farm land and industrial sites? How well will you like him when China is taking most of our produce and shipping it to themselves?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:35 pm
by Shirley
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:51 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm Biden has surprised me with the competence. An indicator of that is he is attacked for his age relentlessly but not the policies. China has about gone to the mat financially too, incidentally. Having a stable president has allowed the U.S. to lead the reset of the international order. If we can rid the Republicans of their Russia Today spin and policies, we might make real progress on important existential issues. In Texas it is extremely hot, but the grid has survived because it has been bolstered immensely by solar power by folks not listening to MAGA politicians here.
The same Biden on whose watch the Chinese have been buying up American farm land and industrial sites? How well will you like him when China is taking most of our produce and shipping it to themselves?
How much American land has China bought during the Biden years?

According to Forbes, not known as a liberal-leaning source, Chinese ownership of American farmland skyrocketed during Trump's last year in office:

Of the 109 countries that own U.S. agricultural land, China ranks No. 18, far behind No. 1 Canada (12.8 million acres) and even and the Cayman Islands (672,000).

...Chinese agricultural land ownership only increased about 550 acres from 2015 to 2019. Then ownership jumped 30% from 2019 to 2020, from some 247,000 acres to roughly 352,000. U.S. companies with Chinese shareholders more than doubled their acreage that year, accounting for 102,000 acres of the growth....

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:39 pm
by JKLivin
Feral wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:35 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:51 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm Biden has surprised me with the competence. An indicator of that is he is attacked for his age relentlessly but not the policies. China has about gone to the mat financially too, incidentally. Having a stable president has allowed the U.S. to lead the reset of the international order. If we can rid the Republicans of their Russia Today spin and policies, we might make real progress on important existential issues. In Texas it is extremely hot, but the grid has survived because it has been bolstered immensely by solar power by folks not listening to MAGA politicians here.
The same Biden on whose watch the Chinese have been buying up American farm land and industrial sites? How well will you like him when China is taking most of our produce and shipping it to themselves?
How much American land has China bought during the Biden years?

According to Forbes, not known as a liberal-leaning source, Chinese ownership of American farmland skyrocketed during Trump's last year in office:

Of the 109 countries that own U.S. agricultural land, China ranks No. 18, far behind No. 1 Canada (12.8 million acres) and even and the Cayman Islands (672,000).

...Chinese agricultural land ownership only increased about 550 acres from 2015 to 2019. Then ownership jumped 30% from 2019 to 2020, from some 247,000 acres to roughly 352,000. U.S. companies with Chinese shareholders more than doubled their acreage that year, accounting for 102,000 acres of the growth....
https://www.reuters.com/business/financ ... 021-06-11/

China, aka Blackrock. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:52 pm
by Mjl
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:46 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:58 pm

I think most people would.
Who do you want?
Someone who’ll give the globalists hell. Trey Gordy or Josh Hawley would be great, but I don’t think either would run.
Hawley fits you

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:58 pm
by JKLivin
Mjl wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:52 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:55 pm
Mjl wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:46 pm

Who do you want?
Someone who’ll give the globalists hell. Trey Gordy or Josh Hawley would be great, but I don’t think either would run.
Hawley fits you
Smart, tough, driven, America first mindset. I like him.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:18 pm
by KUTradition
Smart?

:lol:

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:37 pm
by JKLivin
KUTradition wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:18 pm Smart?

:lol:
This from a guy who thinks that Biden is doing a great job? But you’re right. Only idiots graduate from Stanford and Yale. :roll:

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:38 pm
by Shirley
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:39 pm
Feral wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:35 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:51 pm

The same Biden on whose watch the Chinese have been buying up American farm land and industrial sites? How well will you like him when China is taking most of our produce and shipping it to themselves?
How much American land has China bought during the Biden years?

According to Forbes, not known as a liberal-leaning source, Chinese ownership of American farmland skyrocketed during Trump's last year in office:

Of the 109 countries that own U.S. agricultural land, China ranks No. 18, far behind No. 1 Canada (12.8 million acres) and even and the Cayman Islands (672,000).

...Chinese agricultural land ownership only increased about 550 acres from 2015 to 2019. Then ownership jumped 30% from 2019 to 2020, from some 247,000 acres to roughly 352,000. U.S. companies with Chinese shareholders more than doubled their acreage that year, accounting for 102,000 acres of the growth....
https://www.reuters.com/business/financ ... 021-06-11/

China, aka Blackrock. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
If you have a point to make that's in that article, feel free to post it, because I'm not going to spend time looking for it.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:45 pm
by JKLivin
Feral wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:38 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:39 pm
Feral wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:35 pm

How much American land has China bought during the Biden years?

According to Forbes, not known as a liberal-leaning source, Chinese ownership of American farmland skyrocketed during Trump's last year in office:

Of the 109 countries that own U.S. agricultural land, China ranks No. 18, far behind No. 1 Canada (12.8 million acres) and even and the Cayman Islands (672,000).

...Chinese agricultural land ownership only increased about 550 acres from 2015 to 2019. Then ownership jumped 30% from 2019 to 2020, from some 247,000 acres to roughly 352,000. U.S. companies with Chinese shareholders more than doubled their acreage that year, accounting for 102,000 acres of the growth....
https://www.reuters.com/business/financ ... 021-06-11/

China, aka Blackrock. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
If you have a point to make that's in that article, feel free to post it, because I'm not going to spend time looking for it.
It's simple:

Blackrock is buying up all of the land.
Blackrock is the only "American" company operating in China.
China does not allow companies to operate there unless they own a majority share of them.
Hence, "Blackrock," er . . . China, is buying the land.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:57 pm
by TDub
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:45 pm
Feral wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:38 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:39 pm

https://www.reuters.com/business/financ ... 021-06-11/

China, aka Blackrock. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
If you have a point to make that's in that article, feel free to post it, because I'm not going to spend time looking for it.
It's simple:

Blackrock is buying up all of the land.
Blackrock is the only "American" company operating in China.
China does not allow companies to operate there unless they own a majority share of them.
Hence, "Blackrock," er . . . China, is buying the land.
Not to dismiss the entire thing. I'm not big on foreign citizens owning US land.

But....Blackrock isn't owned by the Chinese. It's majority owner is Vanguard Group.


And...Bill Gates is now the largest agricultural land owner in the US. Which, is an entirely different set of strangeness and concern.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:06 pm
by Mjl
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:58 pm
Mjl wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:52 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:55 pm

Someone who’ll give the globalists hell. Trey Gordy or Josh Hawley would be great, but I don’t think either would run.
Hawley fits you
Smart, tough, driven, America first mindset. I like him.
I was thinking more along the lines of populist liberal, but is a Republican because that party no longer has actual values beyond sticking it to the Dems