Oh boy NIKE in trouble

[jfish26]

I think you're making a specific point in search of an argument. I don't think there's any serious person who thinks that introducing transparency and regulation into a black market will cause more bad acts.

[twocoach]

No, I simply dont buy into the claims that it will end, or even marginally reduce, bad acts.

[Geezer]

Adding more money into the recruiting process does nothing to take any money out of it.

[jfish26]

No, I simply dont buy into the claims that it will end, or even marginally reduce, bad acts.

Ok. I don't think you'd find an economist or market psychologist that would support your position (for free, anyway).

[PortlandHawk]

https://twitter.com/freegifhawk/status/ ... 78560?s=21

[jfish26]

Adding more money into the recruiting process does nothing to take any money out of it.

I've never suggested that there should be less money in the recruiting process.

[DCHawk1]

Adding more money into the recruiting process does nothing to take any money out of it.

I've never suggested that there should be less money in the recruiting process.

Exactly.

[pdub]

KC Phogushers are lookin pretty solid this year.

[Deleted User 75]

KC Phogushers are lookin pretty solid this year.

Wouldn't it only be the KC Phogushers if the school pays them? Nobody I've seen has suggested the schools be allowed to do that. Most think schools paying players is a terrible idea.

Why anyone would rather our players and staff be forced to do this under the table (which our staff is CLEARLY aware of, if not involved in somewhat indirectly) is beyond me.

Why would you like a player less or think he cares less if he can sign with an agent (or whatever) who can legally advance them money secured by future earnings?

Newsflash: A LOT of our current and former players were being paid under the table. You think the FBI caught the only 2 players Self and Company were getting money to for commitments to Kansas? LOL. Stick your head back in the sand bruh.

[MICHHAWK]

Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

[jfish26]

Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

But: yes, we do.

[pdub]

No we don't.
We don't know the way to fix it.
We can assume one way will.

You have your suggestions. Other people have other suggestions.

[jfish26]

Probably the worst way to address this problem, or nearly any complex problem, is to not do anything until you're 100% sure that the problem will be 100% fixed by the proposed solution.

I am not saying - no one is saying - that players getting money means everything is perfect forever.

[CrimsonNBlue]

You think the FBI caught the only 2 players Self and Company were getting money to for commitments to Kansas?

It's a lot closer to only 2 players having NOT received some type of impermissible benefit while a recruit.

Step 1 in ridding the large majority of the weird shady dudes is to just admit it and turn the goddamn light on. Watch the roaches scatter.

[pdub]

Probably the worst way to address this problem, or nearly any complex problem, is to not do anything until you're 100% sure that the problem will be 100% fixed by the proposed solution.

I am not saying - no one is saying - that players getting money means everything is perfect forever.

I agree.
Something needs to be done.
I don't agree converting college into the semi pros is the solution.

[Deleted User 75]

You think the FBI caught the only 2 players Self and Company were getting money to for commitments to Kansas?

It's a lot closer to only 2 players having NOT received some type of impermissible benefit while a recruit.

Step 1 in ridding the large majority of the weird shady dudes is to just admit it and turn the goddamn light on. Watch the roaches scatter.

Lunistra (I'm sure I butchered that spelling) and teahan are probably our 2 players in the clear from this year's team. Maybe mitch?

[Deleted User 75]

Probably the worst way to address this problem, or nearly any complex problem, is to not do anything until you're 100% sure that the problem will be 100% fixed by the proposed solution.

I am not saying - no one is saying - that players getting money means everything is perfect forever.

I agree.
Something needs to be done.
I don't agree converting college into the semi pros is the solution.

It's not semi-pro if the colleges aren't the ones paying the players.

[MICHHAWK]

Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

But: yes, we do.

I assume that IF they knew how to fix it in a satisfactory manner that will satisfy most, if not satisfy all, they will/would do so. They have not done so as of yet. So I take that to mean they don't know how, yet. Maybe they will know how down the road. Maybe.

You put 5 so-called experts around a table and ask them what to do, we get 4 different answers.

[jfish26]

Probably the worst way to address this problem, or nearly any complex problem, is to not do anything until you're 100% sure that the problem will be 100% fixed by the proposed solution.

I am not saying - no one is saying - that players getting money means everything is perfect forever.

I agree.
Something needs to be done.
I don't agree converting college into the semi pros is the solution.

Why does it work for Olympic sports, and for every other conceivable thing a person might do while at the same time being in college?

[jfish26]

Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

But: yes, we do.

I assume that IF they knew how to fix it in a satisfactory manner that will satisfy most, if not satisfy all, they will/would do so. Theyhave not done so as of yet. So I take that mean they don't know how, yet. Maybe they will know how down the road. Maybe.

You put 5 so-called experts around a table and ask them what to do, we get 4 different answers.