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Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:26 am
by pdub
I figured we'd foul but I trust Self.
He's been in those situations before and it seems quite a bit more often than not teams have missed.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:27 am
by japhy
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:23 am He just didn't factor in Mario.
And the human cannonball bringing the ball down the floor.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:30 am
by NewtonHawk11
Work with a Carolina native. He was happy with how game was officiated and how bigs battled down low (Of course because his big only had 3 fouls while ours had a combine 8) and he honestly thinks that someone hit that guy who vomited. He thinks UNC likely wins that game if Love doesn't shoot them out of it. 5-24 from the field with 1-8 from 3. Said they just had tired legs and halftime came at the worst time because they caught their breath and probably realized how dead tired they were.

Tears extra salty today.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:32 am
by NewtonHawk11
pdub wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:26 am I figured we'd foul but I trust Self.
He's been in those situations before and it seems quite a bit more often than not teams have missed.
Timeout before the SOB that Harris ran out of bounds, Self was zoomed in during the huddle and said "Don't foul!" CB said something and Self replied back "NO!"

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:33 am
by DCHawk1
"he honestly thinks that someone hit that guy who vomited."

I blame 99.

He put his shoes on and that resurrected the ghost of EJ.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:47 am
by jfish26
japhy wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:14 am With 4.3 seconds on the clock I had to ask everyone in the living room, "is Bill gonna foul on the in bounds and not let them get off a 3 pointer at the buzzer or is he gonna play it like Cal did?"

Somewhere in Kinfucky last night Cal was yelling...."See! See! It was the right call! It just didn't work out for us!"
I was very very very much Team Foul.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:51 am
by jhawks99
Damn, Busted.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:53 am
by DCHawk1
jfish26 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:47 am
japhy wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:14 am With 4.3 seconds on the clock I had to ask everyone in the living room, "is Bill gonna foul on the in bounds and not let them get off a 3 pointer at the buzzer or is he gonna play it like Cal did?"

Somewhere in Kinfucky last night Cal was yelling...."See! See! It was the right call! It just didn't work out for us!"
I was very very very much Team Foul.
Generally, I'm on your side.

The difference between 2008 and last night was 6.5 seconds and the CLEAR opportunity to foul before a shot could be set up.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:53 am
by CrimsonNBlue
I haven't seen all of the comments, so Bill may have already talked about it, but it looked like to me that fouling was on the table (and I would have). But, the Carolina player pretty aggressively charged at the 3 point line, and I think CB would have risked him going into his shot if he fouled.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:04 am
by NewtonHawk11
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:53 am I haven't seen all of the comments, so Bill may have already talked about it, but it looked like to me that fouling was on the table (and I would have). But, the Carolina player pretty aggressively charged at the 3 point line, and I think CB would have risked him going into his shot if he fouled.
As I mentioned above in the timeout before Harris stepped out Self said DON'T FOUL! CB said something back to him and he said NO! as he shook his head. He was clear that he didn't want to foul.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:17 am
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:04 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:53 am I haven't seen all of the comments, so Bill may have already talked about it, but it looked like to me that fouling was on the table (and I would have). But, the Carolina player pretty aggressively charged at the 3 point line, and I think CB would have risked him going into his shot if he fouled.
As I mentioned above in the timeout before Harris stepped out Self said DON'T FOUL! CB said something back to him and he said NO! as he shook his head. He was clear that he didn't want to foul.
Yeah, watching postgame stuff now and am gathering that.

It becomes an even finer line on what to do when there's only 4 seconds on the clock from the inbounds, even from a sideline inbounds.

And also, UNC sans Manek were ice cold from 3 last night.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:18 am
by NewtonHawk11
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:17 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:04 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:53 am I haven't seen all of the comments, so Bill may have already talked about it, but it looked like to me that fouling was on the table (and I would have). But, the Carolina player pretty aggressively charged at the 3 point line, and I think CB would have risked him going into his shot if he fouled.
As I mentioned above in the timeout before Harris stepped out Self said DON'T FOUL! CB said something back to him and he said NO! as he shook his head. He was clear that he didn't want to foul.
Yeah, watching postgame stuff now and am gathering that.

It becomes an even finer line on what to do when there's only 4 seconds on the clock from the inbounds, even from a sideline inbounds.

And also, UNC sans Manek were ice cold from 3 last night.
They actually shot really shitty. They just had way more because of rebounds. We were outrebounded by fucking 20. 24 offensive rebounds to just 8.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:20 am
by KUTradition
they destroyed us on second chance points

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:38 am
by PhDhawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:30 am Work with a Carolina native. He was happy with how game was officiated and how bigs battled down low (Of course because his big only had 3 fouls while ours had a combine 8) and he honestly thinks that someone hit that guy who vomited. He thinks UNC likely wins that game if Love doesn't shoot them out of it. 5-24 from the field with 1-8 from 3. Said they just had tired legs and halftime came at the worst time because they caught their breath and probably realized how dead tired they were.

Tears extra salty today.
He's right. But that's what KU does, it cuts off the head of the snake. We always try to take out the other team's best player.

It's part of the reason why there's always some shlub whose only attempted 5 3's all year who goes 6 of 8 against us.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:40 am
by PhDhawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:18 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:17 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:04 am

As I mentioned above in the timeout before Harris stepped out Self said DON'T FOUL! CB said something back to him and he said NO! as he shook his head. He was clear that he didn't want to foul.
Yeah, watching postgame stuff now and am gathering that.

It becomes an even finer line on what to do when there's only 4 seconds on the clock from the inbounds, even from a sideline inbounds.

And also, UNC sans Manek were ice cold from 3 last night.
They actually shot really shitty. They just had way more because of rebounds. We were outrebounded by fucking 20. 24 offensive rebounds to just 8.
There's a clip where you see Case stick his head into the huddle, and say something, and then you just see self yell "They all can shoot it!". I'm guessing Case said something like Manek is the shooter, or something.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:44 am
by twocoach
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:30 am Work with a Carolina native. He was happy with how game was officiated and how bigs battled down low (Of course because his big only had 3 fouls while ours had a combine 8) and he honestly thinks that someone hit that guy who vomited. He thinks UNC likely wins that game if Love doesn't shoot them out of it. 5-24 from the field with 1-8 from 3. Said they just had tired legs and halftime came at the worst time because they caught their breath and probably realized how dead tired they were.

Tears extra salty today.
Kansas would have 3-4 more national titles if various players didn't "shoot us out of it".

Kansas rose to the moment,
Carolina shrunk from it.

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:46 am
by KUTradition
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:38 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:30 am Work with a Carolina native. He was happy with how game was officiated and how bigs battled down low (Of course because his big only had 3 fouls while ours had a combine 8) and he honestly thinks that someone hit that guy who vomited. He thinks UNC likely wins that game if Love doesn't shoot them out of it. 5-24 from the field with 1-8 from 3. Said they just had tired legs and halftime came at the worst time because they caught their breath and probably realized how dead tired they were.

Tears extra salty today.
He's right. But that's what KU does, it cuts off the head of the snake. We always try to take out the other team's best player.

It's part of the reason why there's always some shlub whose only attempted 5 3's all year who goes 6 of 8 against us.
and by that same token, KU woulda been up big had they just made the bunnies

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:48 am
by ousdahl

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:48 am
by KUTradition
welcome home ceremony at 4:15 this afternoon at Memorial

all lots open at 2 for parking, and there will be a shuttle running from Vermont St. garage and Riverfront Plaza

Re: Biggest comeback in championship game history

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:56 am
by KUTradition