Kansas Crimson

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:32 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:52 pm What I am saying is that you are setting yourself up to have to walk this back. I like Clemence and think he can be a good player, much more offense than defense. I think you are deluding yourself if you think he is anything more than Diet Hunter.

A walk back like what you had to do with Jackson. Got it

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:02 pm Clemence is slow and awful on defense too. I know it's been a year since we've seen it, but there is a reason he was behind Udeh and Zuby.

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:38 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:02 pm Clemence is slow and awful on defense too. I know it's been a year since we've seen it, but there is a reason he was behind Udeh and Zuby.

Far quicker than hunter. Zachs problem is he's kind of a tweener between a forward and a big. KJ is also a tweener between being a forward and a big. But they have very opposite skills, and could compliment eachother.

Hunter was thought to compliment KJ is a similar fashion. But he is just too God damn slow to have a functional defense. Zach isn't going to win any defensive accolades. But he can move a lot better than hunter (not saying much) and maybe we wouldn't have such a weak link in the defense

But the whole argument likely matters little, i think hunter will be here. So clemence will be battling for back up minutes, and might not get them being kind of a tweener forward/big who might struggle to knock down shots in spot minutes

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:36 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:32 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:52 pm What I am saying is that you are setting yourself up to have to walk this back. I like Clemence and think he can be a good player, much more offense than defense. I think you are deluding yourself if you think he is anything more than Diet Hunter.

A walk back like what you had to do with Jackson. Got it

Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're the one coming around to tell us that Clemence is something better than Diet Hunter. I think you're wrong. I think they play extremely similar games, only Clemence is not as good.

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:38 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:02 pm Clemence is slow and awful on defense too. I know it's been a year since we've seen it, but there is a reason he was behind Udeh and Zuby.

Far quicker than hunter. Zachs problem is he's kind of a tweener between a forward and a big. KJ is also a tweener between being a forward and a big. But they have very opposite skills, and could compliment eachother.

Hunter was thought to compliment KJ is a similar fashion. But he is just too God damn slow to have a functional defense. Zach isn't going to win any defensive accolades. But he can move a lot better than hunter (not saying much) and maybe we wouldn't have such a weak link in the defense

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:41 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:36 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:32 pm

A walk back like what you had to do with Jackson. Got it

Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're the one coming around to tell us that Clemence is something better than Diet Hunter. I think you're wrong. I think they play extremely similar games, only Clemence is not as good.

My point was maybe he might fit better with the other players. Last years pieces clearly didn't fit too well, so I'm not exactly going out on a limb. I never even made any predictions about role or production. So what exactly am I gonna have to "walk back"?

All I said is, if we don't have hunter, which I don't give a single fuck if he comes back, we might already have an intriguing frontcourt in place with KJ, bidunga, and zach

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:52 pm I do agree zach needs to develop into a 4. KJ basically has the skillset of a 5 and the body of a 3.

Calling hunter a shot blocker is wild tho. He does good if someone is trying to back him down, but he almost never rotates over to provide weakside shot blocking, which I think is the top priority for a center

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:24 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:18 pm I like Clemens, especially his short stories. That one about the frog in Calaveras County is my fav.

Helluva splitter, too.

AlOerter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:01 pm To me, Zach is a backup for KJ. Who backed up KJ this year? No one really.

AlOerter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:01 pm To me, Zach is a backup for KJ. Who backed up KJ this year? No one really.

mjl2 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:04 pm

AlOerter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:01 pm To me, Zach is a backup for KJ. Who backed up KJ this year? No one really.

In the summer games and the exhibition games he was exclusively used that way. He was never out there without either Dickinson or Braun.

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:08 pm

AlOerter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:01 pm To me, Zach is a backup for KJ. Who backed up KJ this year? No one really.

Yes, this is most likely. He gives an intriguing situational option if we need shooting at that position