Kansas Crimson

The idea that the Federal Government should be able to force states to legalize weed is a really odd take.

As long as it's not something discriminatory and not going directly against federal law the states can make just about anything illegal.

Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:38 pm The idea that the Federal Government should be able to force states to legalize weed is a really odd take.

As long as it's not something discriminatory and not going directly against federal law the states can make just about anything illegal.

They should just remove it from Schedule 1 and I would bet that a number of the country the states dragging along behind the rest would begin to legalize it. If any stragglers want to continue to not take advantage of the additional tax revenue after that then let them suffer the consequences of being surrounded by states that will happily accept that revenue.

removal from schedule 1 status also makes it MUCH easier for research

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:47 am

Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:38 pm The idea that the Federal Government should be able to force states to legalize weed is a really odd take.

As long as it's not something discriminatory and not going directly against federal law the states can make just about anything illegal.

They should just remove it from Schedule 1 and I would bet that a number of the country the states dragging along behind the rest would begin to legalize it. If any stragglers want to continue to not take advantage of the additional tax revenue after that then let them suffer the consequences of being surrounded by states that will happily accept that revenue.

Exactly.

It's just I've seen suggestions that the Federal Government should legalize it nationally, which seems like federal overreach to force states to legalize it.

perhaps the federal overreach was giving it Schedule 1 status in the first place?

Probably belongs across the hall but we’re well past the point in the lifecycle of a democracy to be reliant on our system which is working through a patchwork of 50 legal frameworks overlaid by a national one. Either we’re a country or a collection of 50 fiefdoms. Put an end to this nonsense anachronism (based mostly on not offending the feelings of supporters of slavery), and abolish the Senate while we’re at it. Federalism had outlived its usefulness in 1900. Give it the cremation it deserves and move on.

I personally think that we are too large of a country to either be just federal or just state. If we were a dinky country like over in Europe then it's easy but we aren't.

if, say, the feds suddenly downgraded weed from schedule 1, how many state and local gummints would follow suit?

presumably all the states that already legalized recreational and/or medicinal weed, if not to say they have already.

Are there other states that are more progressive about weed but not yet legalized anyway?

Would any red states? Through some combo of feigned morality, and also defiance of the feds and progressives, they'd prob double down.

Nebraska-Kansas vs Colorado conflict regarding recreational use is sufficient proof that having individual state laws don’t work. Now we have the aftermath of Roe decision adding to it. Unfortunately “sticking it to the libs” seems to be the governing principle in several States.

you're right. as usual.

lets have california set the pace for the rest of the country. whatever they do, the rest of us will follow.

Getting marijuana off the schedule 1 list would be Bidens crowning achievement to date. This should have happened decades ago.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:46 pm Getting marijuana off the schedule 1 list would be Bidens crowning achievement to date.

it would be his first achievement to date. so, yes. by definition it would be his crowning achievement to date.

gotta start somewhere.

lol, we know you’re dumb mich, no need to keep proving it.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:30 pm you're right. as usual.

lets have california set the pace for the rest of the country. whatever they do, the rest of us will follow.

Or we could be like Michigan and poison our own drinking water.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:46 pm Getting marijuana off the schedule 1 list would be Bidens crowning achievement to date. This should have happened decades ago.

Actually Biden has been ahead of the wave on many issues. Remember how everyone was aghast at his “gaffe” in support of same-gender marriage?

I do agree that this was a low-hanging fruit but with massive implication.

Mjl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:37 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:47 am

Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:38 pm The idea that the Federal Government should be able to force states to legalize weed is a really odd take.

As long as it's not something discriminatory and not going directly against federal law the states can make just about anything illegal.

They should just remove it from Schedule 1 and I would bet that a number of the country the states dragging along behind the rest would begin to legalize it. If any stragglers want to continue to not take advantage of the additional tax revenue after that then let them suffer the consequences of being surrounded by states that will happily accept that revenue.

Exactly.

It's just I've seen suggestions that the Federal Government should legalize it nationally, which seems like federal overreach to force states to legalize it.

Trying to think of a route that could get you there: maybe if the federal government's position is that if you criminalize weed sales, it would cause a dangerous drug game. Like the racketeering that prohibition created. You, obviously, still have the police power issue, but I agree, let the backwards states just hang themselves by keeping weed criminal.

And, to that end, of all states, Oklahoma has medical sales and Missouri is about ready to get full rec. The public opinion has fully turned.

Lol, such a lawyer.

I mean, I don't know if that's technically right or not. But personally, I like states having the ability to set laws as long as they're not discriminatory (opens bag of worms seeing as marijuana offenses disproportionately affect PoC... But closing that bag for now). In general, and this is moreso a response to zsn, I like states being able to set laws so people can move to what fits them best without having to emigrate.

Gosh darn it, that then gets to discrimination against poor because they don't have the ability to just pick up and move.

Everything is too complicated.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:40 pm https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status ... TBaxa9sSBw

And psychedelics!

I wanna talk to Sampson…

https://twitter.com/cbcnews/status/1581 ... HAT25aMZOA