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Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:42 am
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:49 am when X did it I remember thinking we won the OAD lotto that year.

But his debut also ended up being his career high, and he kinda just put the rest of the season on cruise control.
Henry had 31 vs. LaSalle so that 27 in his debut wasn't his career high.

Does anyone research anything they say any more?

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:47 am
by randylahey
Xavier is really underated for how good he was. As pdub mentioned, that team was absolutely stackeddddd. X came in fit in and was one of the best players. On probably the best team bill ever had. Damn that team should have won a title

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:47 am
by KUTradition
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Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:47 am
by randylahey
But. Grady might be better than Xavier. Time will tell

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:08 am
by ousdahl
twocoach wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:42 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:49 am when X did it I remember thinking we won the OAD lotto that year.

But his debut also ended up being his career high, and he kinda just put the rest of the season on cruise control.
Henry had 31 vs. LaSalle so that 27 in his debut wasn't his career high.

Does anyone research anything they say any more?
excuse me. (am I thinking of some other stud who scored their career high in their freshman debut?)

I forgot about the Lasalle game tho. 31, nice.

But that came in early December.

After researching, I'm afraid the point still stands about seeming like he was on cruise control for much of the rest of the year. He had a stretch in conference play in which he scored in the single digits for 5 games straight, and scored single digits in 3 of his last 6 games at KU, including a whopping 8 points against Northern Iowa.

But I dunno if that team's biggest flaw was X's apparent cruise control, or Sherron getting to play the all-U-can-eat hero ball.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:11 am
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:08 am
twocoach wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:42 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:49 am when X did it I remember thinking we won the OAD lotto that year.

But his debut also ended up being his career high, and he kinda just put the rest of the season on cruise control.
Henry had 31 vs. LaSalle so that 27 in his debut wasn't his career high.

Does anyone research anything they say any more?
excuse me. (am I thinking of some other stud who scored their career high in their freshman debut?)

I forgot about the Lasalle game tho. 31, nice.

But that came in early December.

After researching, I'm afraid the point still stands about seeming like he was on cruise control for much of the rest of the year. He had a stretch in conference play in which he scored in the single digits for 5 games straight, and scored single digits in 3 of his last 6 games at KU, including a whopping 8 points against Northern Iowa.

But I dunno if that team's biggest flaw was X's apparent cruise control, or Sherron getting to play the all-U-can-eat hero ball.
I am a firm believer in the theory that a team takes on the mentality of their leader so some guys going on cruise control at times and under performing that season seems to line up with my theory. That's why I am so happy this team has McCullar as their senior leader. He doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to accept anyone on cruise control.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:14 am
by MICHHAWK
SC is arguably the greatest basketball playing JAYHAWK since the DMan.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:22 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Different teams, different styles of play back then. 2010 team nearly 82 ppg with the high scorer being 15 ppg. 2008 was 81 ppg with the high scorer being 13 ppg.

That kind of balance is rare, now, unless you look at some of our bad offensive teams (2015, 2021).

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:27 am
by TDub
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:22 am Different teams, different styles of play back then. 2010 team nearly 82 ppg with the high scorer being 15 ppg. 2008 was 81 ppg with the high scorer being 13 ppg.

That kind of balance is rare, now, unless you look at some of our bad offensive teams (2015, 2021).
last year wasn't far off...18ppg, 14, 11, 10.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:30 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:14 am SC is arguably the greatest basketball playing JAYHAWK since the DMan.
I'm arguably the sexiest man alive.

In my worthless opinion, Aaron Miles, Raef, Pierce, Collison, Mason, and possibly/probably others were better than SC.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:33 am
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:27 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:22 am Different teams, different styles of play back then. 2010 team nearly 82 ppg with the high scorer being 15 ppg. 2008 was 81 ppg with the high scorer being 13 ppg.

That kind of balance is rare, now, unless you look at some of our bad offensive teams (2015, 2021).
last year wasn't far off...18ppg, 14, 11, 10.
I don't want to get in to too much of a statistical analysis argument, but to me, the difference between 18 and 15 is quite significant, especially when the 18 was on a team that averaged 78 ppg. Granted, the tournament was different given Remy's emergence.

On a less argumentative note, and to MICH's point, if you want to consider the great KU players of the Self era, Och might have competition for that spot, but no one has a better argument.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:36 am
by randylahey
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:14 am SC is arguably the greatest basketball playing JAYHAWK since the DMan.
Dajuan harris???

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:40 am
by jhawks99
Senior SC wasn't all that. Junior SC was pretty freaking good.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:43 am
by CrimsonNBlue
More on topic:

Is Gradey the key to the season?

17 ppg, and we're a legit F4 contender.

13 ppg, and we're like 2nd-4th in the Big 12.

A nod to Jalen, here, as his development also means a lot. The 5 spot, too. So much riding on Gradey's offense, though.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:52 am
by randylahey
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:43 am More on topic:

Is Gradey the key to the season?

17 ppg, and we're a legit F4 contender.

13 ppg, and we're like 2nd-4th in the Big 12.

A nod to Jalen, here, as his development also means a lot. The 5 spot, too. So much riding on Gradey's offense, though.
Yes. And no. Dick, Wilson, and mccullar are the 3 best players. I think we can already assume that, and that all 3 are gonna be good. We know what we are getting from dajuan, and KJ.

Ernest udeh is the key to the season. His progression. Imo

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:54 am
by randylahey
Another key might be our bench. Feels like pettiford and maybe rice or yesefu could give us a really big scoring surge from the bench if we can get those guys going. And energy from the 5 spot

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:02 am
by KUTradition
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:33 am
TDub wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:27 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:22 am Different teams, different styles of play back then. 2010 team nearly 82 ppg with the high scorer being 15 ppg. 2008 was 81 ppg with the high scorer being 13 ppg.

That kind of balance is rare, now, unless you look at some of our bad offensive teams (2015, 2021).
last year wasn't far off...18ppg, 14, 11, 10.
I don't want to get in to too much of a statistical analysis argument, but to me, the difference between 18 and 15 is quite significant, especially when the 18 was on a team that averaged 78 ppg. Granted, the tournament was different given Remy's emergence.

On a less argumentative note, and to MICH's point, if you want to consider the great KU players of the Self era, Och might have competition for that spot, but no one has a better argument.
geography bias?

i’d say BIFM might have the strongest argument

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:03 am
by KUTradition
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:43 am More on topic:

Is Gradey the key to the season?

17 ppg, and we're a legit F4 contender.

13 ppg, and we're like 2nd-4th in the Big 12.

A nod to Jalen, here, as his development also means a lot. The 5 spot, too. So much riding on Gradey's offense, though.
i’d even go more specific and say his outside shooting is what’s so important, given the apparent lack of that ability across the rest of the roster

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:09 am
by CrimsonNBlue
KUTradition wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:02 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:33 am
TDub wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:27 am

last year wasn't far off...18ppg, 14, 11, 10.
I don't want to get in to too much of a statistical analysis argument, but to me, the difference between 18 and 15 is quite significant, especially when the 18 was on a team that averaged 78 ppg. Granted, the tournament was different given Remy's emergence.

On a less argumentative note, and to MICH's point, if you want to consider the great KU players of the Self era, Och might have competition for that spot, but no one has a better argument.
geography bias?

i’d say BIFM might have the strongest argument
No geography bias. Mason in the competition, but it's not a better argument than finishing 2nd in NPOY and winning F4 MOP (which we know what that means for the team). Och played 4 years. Has the story--I am assuming here that "great" means there is room for subjective factors. Mason's senior season was statistically great and has the individual hardware. Och bests him pretty much everywhere else.

Re: Big Dick Energy

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:12 am
by TDub
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:33 am
TDub wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:27 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:22 am Different teams, different styles of play back then. 2010 team nearly 82 ppg with the high scorer being 15 ppg. 2008 was 81 ppg with the high scorer being 13 ppg.

That kind of balance is rare, now, unless you look at some of our bad offensive teams (2015, 2021).
last year wasn't far off...18ppg, 14, 11, 10.
I don't want to get in to too much of a statistical analysis argument, but to me, the difference between 18 and 15 is quite significant, especially when the 18 was on a team that averaged 78 ppg. Granted, the tournament was different given Remy's emergence.

On a less argumentative note, and to MICH's point, if you want to consider the great KU players of the Self era, Och might have competition for that spot, but no one has a better argument.
fine, but 4 guys averaging double digits over the course of a seasonis pretty balanced.