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[Deleted User 863]

Well, I'd say that sorts wraps Bruce's career up with a little bow, right? He did great with a full cupboard...and then left an empty one.

Didn't they make an elite 8 a few years ago?

That's pretty good for KState. More programs than you'd think have never even made an elite 8.

38 different programs have made at least 1 Elite Eight just in the last 10 years, 21 of which have made more than 1 in that time. Kansas, Duke and Kentucky have each made 5 Elite Eights in the last 10 years.

Any idea how many teams in D1 have never made an elite 8 in the modern tournament era?

There are 358 D1 teams.

My guess is that 250ish have never made an elite 8.

[pdub]

It does, albeit very minor, for me.

"The fact that KU did not have as tough a road seed-wise takes zero shine or enjoyment off of last year's national title."

Like winning a free catered meal from KC Joes but they forgot the white bread and pickles.
It's still gonna be delicious and it was free but woulda been great had I gotten to make a sandwich if I wanted.

[twocoach]

Didn't they make an elite 8 a few years ago?

That's pretty good for KState. More programs than you'd think have never even made an elite 8.

38 different programs have made at least 1 Elite Eight just in the last 10 years, 21 of which have made more than 1 in that time. Kansas, Duke and Kentucky have each made 5 Elite Eights in the last 10 years.

Any idea how many teams in D1 have never made an elite 8 in the modern tournament era?

There are 358 D1 teams.

My guess is that 250ish have never made an elite 8.

Kansas State is in a power conference. Only count those. It's pointless to drag a bunch of ding dong directional programs into the conversation as it is not apples to apples at all.

This is all-time, not "in the modern era". You'd probably lose a dozen more teams if you drew the line at 1985.

Every team in the current Big 12 has made an Elite Eight.
Every team in the current ACC has made an Elite Eight.
Every team in the current PAC 12 has made an Elite Eight.
Every SEC team but Texas A&M and Ole Miss has made the Elite Eight.
Every Big Ten team but Nebraska and Northwestern has made the Elite Eight.

[Deleted User 863]

38 different programs have made at least 1 Elite Eight just in the last 10 years, 21 of which have made more than 1 in that time. Kansas, Duke and Kentucky have each made 5 Elite Eights in the last 10 years.

Any idea how many teams in D1 have never made an elite 8 in the modern tournament era?

There are 358 D1 teams.

My guess is that 250ish have never made an elite 8.

Kansas State is in a power conference. Only count those. It's pointless to drag a bunch of ding dong directional programs into the conversation as it is not apples to apples at all.

This is all-time, not "in the modern era". You'd probably lose a dozen more teams if you drew the line at 1985.

Every team in the current Big 12 has made an Elite Eight.
Every team in the current ACC has made an Elite Eight.
Every team in the current PAC 12 has made an Elite Eight.
Every SEC team but Texas A&M and Ole Miss has made the Elite Eight.
Every Big Ten team but Nebraska and Northwestern has made the Elite Eight.

The ACC part is surprising! Figured they'd have one or two who haven't made it.

[surly]

schools can hardly be held responsible for their matchups. remember, k-state's run happened without their star, dean wade. imagine this ku team without wilson as a comparative. y'all think the hawks would make an e8 run without him?

[Deleted User 863]

schools can hardly be held responsible for their matchups. remember, k-state's run happened without their star, dean wade. imagine this ku team without wilson as a comparative. y'all think the hawks would make an e8 run without him?

Nope.

Dean Wade has had a surprisingly good NBA career too.

[pdub]

Hawks made the National Championship without Ben McLemore who was drafted 7th overall only one year after.

larry bird jr went undrafted.

Hawks also made the National Championship without Wayne Simien who was drafted in the 1st round as well and was a consensus 1st team AA and B12POY - also something larry bird jr never did.

[MICHHAWK]

once the madness tips. i want all BIG 12 schools to win.

[ousdahl]

Dean Wade might give hope to Zach Clemence.

[Deleted User 863]

Dean Wade might give hope to Zach Clemence.

Why? They're not much alike other than both being white.

[surly]

you believe zach will make poy, i don't?

[pdub]

dean wade never made poy.
the last ksu player to win b12poy was money bags rental "i went to a small school in manhattan, Kansas that nobody heard of in 25 years" michael beasley.

Meanwhile KU has won 5 of the last 7.

[ousdahl]

I remember Larrybirdjr as a big man with a jumper, right?

That’s pretty much what Zach is.

[pdub]

I remember Larrybirdjr as a big man with a jumper, right?

That’s pretty much what Zach is.

Er, i hate to defend a ksu player but no, that's not all larry bird jr was.
he was more athletic than Clemence and had a good arsenal of post moves.
I'm not even sure Clemence 'has' a jumper at this point.

[KUTradition]

dean wade never made poy.
the last ksu player to win b12poy was money bags rental "i went to a small school in manhattan, Kansas that nobody heard of in 25 years" michael beasley.

Meanwhile KU has won 5 of the last 7.

lol

thank you for correcting timme…the incessant need to try and convince an opposing fan base of some sort of glory or relevance nationally is sad

[pdub]

i would also note that, in larry bj's two best years, where he might have won b12poy, a KU player won it and made 1st team AA ( larry bj didn't ever make even 3rd team AA ) and a KU player may have been robbed of it ( see below ).

player A: 19.4 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 1.7 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 49% FG, 39% 3FG.
player B: 18.5 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 3.7 APG, 1.5 SPG, .6 BPG, 46% FG, 30% 3FG.

[surly]

you don't believe k-state is relevant nationally? i mean coach tang is national coach of the year, right? keyontae johnson is a national story. markquis nowell is an all-american. the team will be either a three or maybe a two seed. please.

[pdub]

they are relevant this season, yes.
we'll see what happens next season without nowell and your national story.

I would vote for Bill Self or Shaka Smart for National Coach of the Year because they actually won something.

"Coach K is widely regarded as the GOAT of Men's College Basketball Coaching - he spent 42 years at Duke and won 13 regular season conference championships...in 42 years...Bill Self got 17 in 20."

[Deleted User 863]

I remember Larrybirdjr as a big man with a jumper, right?

That’s pretty much what Zach is.

Zach is basically a non athletic 5.

Wade is a true 4 who can shoot and is relatively athletic. He can somewhat guard NBA 3s and 4s.

Clemence can't guard any position at the college level, let alone the NBA level.

I am shocked, but Wade has started 56 NBA games. He is far superior to Clemence. He's probably closer to Jalen Wilson. So maybe it should give Jalen Wilson some hope?

[KUTradition]

you don't believe k-state is relevant nationally? i mean coach tang is national coach of the year, right? keyontae johnson is a national story. markquis nowell is an all-american. the team will be either a three or maybe a two seed. please.

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