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Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 6:50 pm
by InfiniteJ
Ain't No Seats Podcast was just talking about how Zuby has a skill that no one has seen outside of practice...apparently the dude can really shoot the ball...they were calling him a more athletic Luke May.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 8:41 pm
by Mjl
I think the value of guys playing together for a long time (more than a year) is forgotten this time of year.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 10:38 pm
by TDub
Mjl wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 8:41 pm I think the value of guys playing together for a long time (more than a year) is forgotten this time of year.
I think its forgotten all year...until the announcers talk about it as a key to success among the final four teams....

its very underrated in the era of new shiny things and social media attention spans.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 10:41 pm
by twocoach
InfiniteJ wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 6:50 pm Ain't No Seats Podcast was just talking about how Zuby has a skill that no one has seen outside of practice...apparently the dude can really shoot the ball...they were calling him a more athletic Luke May.
Lots of guys look good in practice.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 11:50 am
by ousdahl
So where’s this thread stand?

Returning scholarship players:
Dajuan
KJ

Incoming freshmen:
Elmarko
Johnson
Marcus Adams
McDowell

Transfers:
Timberlake
Arterio
Hunter

So we have like, 3 available scholarships?

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 11:53 am
by KUTradition
Mgbako and Zuby ;)

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 11:56 am
by ousdahl
I’d take em!

So who’s the last scholly go to?

Another transfer? Any uncommitted freshies left? Cuffe?

I’d say maybe even just give it to a walk on, but that sorta sitch seems particularly unlikely considering we’re gonna be down a scholly anyway

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 11:58 am
by ousdahl
And what’s the details of a player entering the portal then returning to the original school?

Watch the ncaa pull some technicality out of their ass outta nowhere and say Zuby has to sit out a year…

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 12:03 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:56 am I’d take em!

So who’s the last scholly go to?

Another transfer? Any uncommitted freshies left? Cuffe?

I’d say maybe even just give it to a walk on, but that sorta sitch seems particularly unlikely considering we’re gonna be down a scholly anyway
arent we down a scholarship this year anyway?

can we dock ourselves 2 scholarships this year and go back to full boat next year?

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 pm
by ousdahl
I guess a dark horse candidate for that last scholly would be Kevin.

On one hand, it’s be hard to do better than that

but on the other, 3+ non-scorers in the starting lineup might be last year’s issues all over again.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:36 pm
by ChicagoHawk
Noticed today that Torvik has updated offseason projections.

KU #1, Tennessee #2, pretty big gap between #2 and #3. Also projects KU at #2 offensively, #4 defensively. Really strong, especially with room to still improve the roster. Wide error bars at this point, obviously, but a fun analytics-driven pulse check.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:37 pm
by shindig
KUTradition wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:53 am Mgbako and Zuby ;)
Hearing Mgbako to IU.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:40 pm
by KUTradition
shindig wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:37 pm
KUTradition wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:53 am Mgbako and Zuby ;)
Hearing Mgbako to IU.
ha!

national talking heads were saying KU this morning

who knows…

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:44 pm
by pdub
ChicagoHawk wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:36 pm Noticed today that Torvik has updated offseason projections.

KU #1, Tennessee #2, pretty big gap between #2 and #3. Also projects KU at #2 offensively, #4 defensively. Really strong, especially with room to still improve the roster. Wide error bars at this point, obviously, but a fun analytics-driven pulse check.
I wonder how he adjusts/hypothesizes for freshmen.
Usually both TRank and Kenpom aren't very worthwhile until about 10 games in.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:46 pm
by Mjl
shindig wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:37 pm
KUTradition wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:53 am Mgbako and Zuby ;)
Hearing Mgbako to IU.
Where?

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:47 pm
by Mjl
ChicagoHawk wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:36 pm Noticed today that Torvik has updated offseason projections.

KU #1, Tennessee #2, pretty big gap between #2 and #3. Also projects KU at #2 offensively, #4 defensively. Really strong, especially with room to still improve the roster. Wide error bars at this point, obviously, but a fun analytics-driven pulse check.
I don't understand how our defense would be projected to be that good

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:47 pm
by shindig
I know. Who knows. One of my buddies who lives in Austin and is a pretty big KU booster heard it's IU. He has 4 season ticket seats 4 rows behind the KU bench. Makes much more than I do...lol

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:47 pm
by pdub
My sources are saying it's a lock to KU.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:49 pm
by NewtonHawk11
My sources say he is coming here for free.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:49 pm
by ChicagoHawk
pdub wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:44 pm
ChicagoHawk wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 3:36 pm Noticed today that Torvik has updated offseason projections.

KU #1, Tennessee #2, pretty big gap between #2 and #3. Also projects KU at #2 offensively, #4 defensively. Really strong, especially with room to still improve the roster. Wide error bars at this point, obviously, but a fun analytics-driven pulse check.
I wonder how he adjusts/hypothesizes for freshmen.
Usually both TRank and Kenpom aren't very worthwhile until about 10 games in.
Not extremely predictive yet, for sure, but still more worthwhile than talking heads or media rankings. You can dig into the numbers a bit and see how the new guys are being projected. Obviously speculative, but stuff like 16% of total minutes for Dickinson at 120 ORtg, 13% for Jackson at 108, 3% for Marcus Adams at 102, and so on. Curious how things shift if/when they add Mgbako—there's a tool in there that adds any recruit/transfer into the mix, but I wonder if it changes with the actual addition.