Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:26 am
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George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
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Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:53 pm
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:07 pm
Not what your post was about, but how do you buy a $310,000 house on $47K/year?
Back to your point. Did any of the protestors go beyond the sidewalks, I mean did any even get on the lawn? Also, how long did it take them to come out brandishing guns? I haven't paid a ton of attention, but even on Lobster's biased videos, it seems like they were almost waiting for the protestors to show up.
Back to your point. Did any of the protestors go beyond the sidewalks, I mean did any even get on the lawn? Also, how long did it take them to come out brandishing guns? I haven't paid a ton of attention, but even on Lobster's biased videos, it seems like they were almost waiting for the protestors to show up.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:20 pm
A few things to give context to that terribly edited image. One, Delmar is truly a unique street. You have mansions south, and burnt out houses to the north. It's no jokes, the "wrong side of the tracks" trope. When I moved to St. Louis, I was told never to go north of Delmar because I would be shot. St. Louis is a very, very divided city in many ways, including race. Coming from Philly, I was sickened how locals talked about North of Delmar.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:07 pm Not what your post was about, but how do you buy a $310,000 house on $47K/year?
Back to your point. Did any of the protestors go beyond the sidewalks, I mean did any even get on the lawn? Also, how long did it take them to come out brandishing guns? I haven't paid a ton of attention, but even on Lobster's biased videos, it seems like they were almost waiting for the protestors to show up.
To answer your question about the $47k, a good chunk of the CWE (blue area) is Barnes-Jewish and Washington University grad students. Probably close to 50% or more. It's a more posh area, with boutique dining and shopping. My guess is a lot of those students report income of some sort, which drags down the number. I would guess the average income of non-student residents is well over $80-90k.
Also, the Karen couple don't even live in the blue area, but on the other side of Kingshighway. If you really wanted to see the income dispencies, between Kingshighway and Skinker. I bet the houses there average over a million and incomes over $200k, then north of Delmar probably about the same. But you would lose some of the racial segregation, as non-grads students live in that area as well, which are largely white.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:21 pm
And racism is the only reason why some are successful and others are not.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:24 pm
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:29 pm
I think it also points out a common issue with the whole BLM movement:
Law enforcement (and this case, homeowners) so quick to wonder whether they could shoot people (of color), without first just stopping and asking whether they should
Law enforcement (and this case, homeowners) so quick to wonder whether they could shoot people (of color), without first just stopping and asking whether they should
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:34 pm
I've never seen anything like this. Groups of people walking on my sidewalk, I better get my guns. Minor traffic issue, better pull my gun. Pre-emptively threaten protestors that you'll deputize gun owners. None of it makes any sense. In what world do you defend your grass or your bumper with deadly force? When did that become something people thought they should defend? We used to just call people who pulled their guns on someone for no reason crazy...now we pretend like it's ok because they were scared.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:39 pm
I've gotten in lots of arguments and confrontations in my life. Never once did I stop and think I should get a deadly weapon just in case I need to kill this asshole. And at no point did someone say to me afterward, hey man, you should have brandished a firearm and threatened to kill that guy who let his dog shit in your yard and just left the turd there, you gotta protect your property man.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:43 pm
kinda makes you wonder where the line is drawn between “fear for my life” and “make my day...”
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:47 pm
Right, If I'm afraid of people out on my sidewalk, I probably start by locking my doors and windows. If it gets worse, probably call the police.
Kinda seems like fear for your life and playing Rambo on your front lawn are mutually exclusive.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:51 pm
That one where Rambo trades in his camo fatigues for pastel polos...I smell another sequel!
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:39 pm
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:40 pm
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:50 pm
Arguments, not too mention fights. Bar fights, college fights, sports fights. I mean, you get mad, you fight if thats where it goes. You win or you lose and you move on.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:39 pm I've gotten in lots of arguments and confrontations in my life. Never once did I stop and think I should get a deadly weapon just in case I need to kill this asshole. And at no point did someone say to me afterward, hey man, you should have brandished a firearm and threatened to kill that guy who let his dog shit in your yard and just left the turd there, you gotta protect your property man.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:15 pm
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:22 am
I am convinced this is the result of all of the FoxNews/NRA brainwashing that is going on. Painting all protestors as "angry mobs coming to kill you" results in irrational reactions such as this. Painting all immigrants and black people as violent criminals. Painting all democrats as loony country hating socialists. It's a messaging war of fear that is driving otherwise "normal" people to behave in very abnormal manners.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:34 pmI've never seen anything like this. Groups of people walking on my sidewalk, I better get my guns. Minor traffic issue, better pull my gun. Pre-emptively threaten protestors that you'll deputize gun owners. None of it makes any sense. In what world do you defend your grass or your bumper with deadly force? When did that become something people thought they should defend? We used to just call people who pulled their guns on someone for no reason crazy...now we pretend like it's ok because they were scared.
Trump isn't the only one spouting dangerous rhetoric; it is splashed all over nearly every "news" source that folks like this are ingesting. It's insanity.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:35 am
Oh lordy
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:47 am
Feel free to offer up an explanation as to why a couple of fat old white people decided to charge out into their lawns weilding guns at people who were marching past their house. Truthfully, I find myself at a complete loss to understand a lot of the reasoning behind the behavior like this the last 4 years.
People are out protesting that they have a "constitutional right to wear whatever they want" so they don't have to wear face masks to help keep people safe and get our country back up and running.
I guarantee that if a group of LGBTQ supporters marched down the street wearing see-through outfits that they'd reverse course and scream about how the government should pass laws to protect t them from having to see this because those people don't have the constitutional right to "wear whatever they want".
It's lunacy.
Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:22 am
Oh lordy