Re: KU's DeSousa could be ruled ineligible...
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:45 pm
They didn't investigate?
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But what was really proven against Kansas or Kansas coaches? KT said we would have to find a way to match an offer (from Duke or Nike) for Zion? A wink and a couple of nods Not a smoking gun. Even with the NCAA, it's not what you think, it's what you prove. SDS might, I doubt, be rule ineligible but Kansas won't be touched. I think the most they have on SDS is $2500 for summer school. That's repayment and 9 games.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pmWhich is why I've said numerous times "we got unlucky".Lonestarjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:47 am No one is innocent...that's the point. Who is Adidas competing with? If they are giving kids $100k it's because Nike or UA or both is offering $90k. Don't try to defend Duke, they we're just lucky FBI were only taping Adidas guys.
But that doesn't really matter. The ncaa is going to punish the people who got caught...I'm not defending Duke. But they didnt get caught like us and Louisville (and orhers) did.
That Maryland "stuff" is some guy saying that he heard that a Maryland booster gave SDS's guardian money. The guy who said it on record wasnt involved. That's no different than KT saying an offer is out there from Zion's family.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:31 amthe NCAA doesn't have to prove anything.Lonestarjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:51 am He was given $2500. Pay it back and take a 9-games sitting in street clothes and call it even. His people asked for more but neither the NCAA or the FBI can prove that he actually got more. How can he sit and Zion and others plays?
And you can keep leaving out the Maryland stuff, but just because he didn't go there doesn't make those allegations irrelevant. It's very much in play, but I think he can potentially escape that since not as much evidence was presented relating to that.
Please stop comparing the Zion situation to this and thinking it's apples to apples. Zion is mentioned in a text (by OUR schools staff, not Dukes)...there was no evidence presented that indicated Zion took anything from us or Duke, just that our staff was willing to meet whatever wish list his camp potentially had.....do we all think Zion took something? Yes, absolutely. but there was no evidence presented related to Zion or Duke.
The SDS stuff is small potatoes compared to lack of institutional control that they could hit us with for the texts/phone calls/ and regular meetings with someone who has admitted to funneling players to Adidas schools.....which is exactly why Self isn't throwing a public temper tantrum and bashing the ncaa with how they're handling the SDS instance....that's not even mentioning Billy Preston and that aspect of it.Lonestarjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:09 pmBut what was really proven against Kansas or Kansas coaches? KT said we would have to find a way to match an offer (from Duke or Nike) for Zion? A wink and a couple of nods Not a smoking gun. Even with the NCAA, it's not what you think, it's what you prove. SDS might, I doubt, be rule ineligible but Kansas won't be touched. I think the most they have on SDS is $2500 for summer school. That's repayment and 9 games.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pmWhich is why I've said numerous times "we got unlucky".Lonestarjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:47 am No one is innocent...that's the point. Who is Adidas competing with? If they are giving kids $100k it's because Nike or UA or both is offering $90k. Don't try to defend Duke, they we're just lucky FBI were only taping Adidas guys.
But that doesn't really matter. The ncaa is going to punish the people who got caught...I'm not defending Duke. But they didnt get caught like us and Louisville (and orhers) did.
There is no meat to the Zion rumor though....there is nothing from Duke or his camp. Only from a Kansas coach, and regardless if that pretty much assures that there was foul play on the other side, that's nothing similar to what these former Adidas employees are admitting was happening at Adidas schools...there's no real evidence. You can't suspend a duke player because a Kansas coach was willing to break rules to get him on campus, unless there's some evidence that Duke did the same (and while we all know they did, there is not hard evidence of foul play by their staff).
"Found No evidence"...who gives a shit, since, "The NCAA doesn't have to prove anything."ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:01 pm they didn't not investigate, I guess. They just found no evidence of a rules violation "based on the information available."
Basically, neither the jeweler nor Thomas said anything more about it, and the NCAA never bothered asking.
http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketb ... s-up-zilch
Probably Not preston. Not cliff. Not diallo.pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:39 pm I'd wait out the season if I were DeSousa.
Is/was he as heralded as Preston coming out?
Did he show enough in his time at KU to entice NBA scouts to take a chance on him?
It sucks he's in this spot.
But for him, what would be ideal, is if what Self has been alluding to happens ( NCAA makes a call - LOL ) and he can figure out what to do after that point.
Cliff. Preston. The list goes on.
I didn't know duke was on our schedule?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:29 am I don't see how we beat Duke w/o De Sousa. At the very least, he's an important part of our lineup in w/ that matchup.
4/8/19randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:33 pmI didn't know duke was on our schedule?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:29 am I don't see how we beat Duke w/o De Sousa. At the very least, he's an important part of our lineup in w/ that matchup.
Or 4/6/19Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:37 pm4/8/19randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:33 pmI didn't know duke was on our schedule?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:29 am I don't see how we beat Duke w/o De Sousa. At the very least, he's an important part of our lineup in w/ that matchup.
Or never.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:43 pmOr 4/6/19