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[pdub]

Larry Brown would watch Ben at practice in 2012 and gush about how he could have been one of KU's best players.

[pdub]

I'd put em in the top half of Bill Self's squads here.
Tier 1: 2008, 2010.
Tier 2: 2011, 2016.
Tier 3: 2012, 2017, 2018.
Tier 4: 2007, 2013.
Tier 5: 2014, 2006, 2005, 2019, 2015, 2009.

[Deleted User 75]

the Ben we saw his 2nd year was far from the Ben that we would have seen his freshman year. That's just common sense. He obviously improved a ton in his year off. He wasn't a top 10 recruit...and in 1 year made himself a lotto pick...Ben would have helped, he'd have likely been our 4th best player.

Almost none of this is true. The only true part is that Ben was not a top 10 ranked recruit but was a lotto pick.

You don't think Ben improved in his redshirt year?

You think Ben was better than TRob, Ty, or Withey?...maybe I'm giving Withey too much credit and having trouble splitting junior and senior performance in my mind.....so okay, maybe Ben was 3rd best.

[Deleted User 75]

Larry Brown would watch Ben at practice in 2012 and gush about how he could have been one of KU's best players.

Wouldn't 3rd or 4th be considered 1 of their best players? JFC

[Deleted User 75]

I'd put em in the top half of Bill Self's squads here.
Tier 1: 2008, 2010.
Tier 2: 2011, 2016.
Tier 3: 2012, 2017, 2018.
Tier 4: 2007, 2013.
Tier 5: 2014, 2006, 2005, 2019, 2015, 2009.

It's amazing how this changes based on the argument.

I've seen people say they were 1 of the worst.

[Geezer]

Ben's screwy senior year of high school sent his ranking downward.

[pdub]

@ Oklahoma State

Dedric Lawson - .991 ( 20 PTS, 15 REB, 3 STL )
Quentin Grimes - .567 ( 17 PTS, 4 REB, 6/11 FG )
Mitch Lightfoot - .461 ( 7 PTS, 3 AST, 1 BLK )
Marcus Garrett - .380 ( 6 PTS, 6 REB )
Ochai Agbaji - .371 ( 11 PTS, 5 REB, 3/10 FG )

( Devon Dotson - .132 - 4 PTS, 5 TO, 2/10 FG )

Overall
Dedric Lawson - .794
Devon Dotson - .485
Ochai Agbaji - .370
Marcus Garrett - .325
Quentin Grimes - .241

[pdub]

@ Oklahoma

David McComrack - .851 (18 PTS, 5 REB, 2 STL )
Dedric Lawson - .747 ( 18 PTS, 11 REB, 6/11 FG )
Chris Teahan - .385 (3 PTS, 1/1 FG, 2 MIN )
Ochai Agbaji - .219 (9 PTS, 3 REB, 4/12 FG )
Devon Dotson - .212 (6 PTS, 4 AST, 3 TO )

[pdub]

v Baylor

Dedric Lawson - 1.136 ( 23 PTS, 14 REB, 3 BLK, 2 STL )
David McCormack - .557 ( 12 PTS, 5 REB, 6/9 FG )
Devon Dotson - .461 ( 15 PTS, 3 REB, 2 STL )
Quentin Grimes - .371 ( 9 PTS, 5 AST, 3/6 FG )
Ochai Agbaji - .321 ( 6 PTS, 8 REB, 3/10 FG )

Overall
Dedric Lawson - .810
Devon Dotson - .469
Ochai Agbaji - .364
Marcus Garrett - .325
Quentin Grimes - .254

[pdub]

v Texas

Devon Dotson - .683 ( 17 PTS, 4 AST, 3 REB )
David McCormack - .680 ( 13 PTS, 9 REB, 6/7 FG )
Quentin Grimes - .502 ( 12 PTS, 4 REB, 3 AST )
Dedric Lawson - .495 ( 16 PTS, 6 REB, 6 TO, 6/15 FG )
Marcus Garrett - .345 ( 5 PTS, 8 REB, 2 TO )

[pdub]

David McCormack has finished in the top 2 in the last 3 games.
Remind you of anyone who got a bit hot right before last years tourney?
( the NCAA sure knows the answer )

[NewtonHawk11]

David McCormack has finished in the top 2 in the last 3 games.
Remind you of anyone who got a bit hot right before last years tourney?
( the NCAA sure knows the answer )

I tweeted that out last night about halfway through that first half. Big Dave is coming on strong just like Silvio did last year.

Remember, Silvio was sped up and all over the place when he started playing. But by conference tournament play, he was a guy that you HAD to have in the game.

My favorite part about him is that he is a pretty strong guy and gives big time effort. Texas killed KU on the boards in the first 2 games, last night, KU outrebounded Texas by almost 10.

Nothing irks Self more than being outrebounded because a lot of rebounding is about effort. And Big Dave gives that effort and goes after EVERY ball.

[pdub]

There were a few moments last night where I thought he was going to get the old 'you are a freshman so I'm going to blow my whistle for you on a close call for over the back' but he didn't.

He's got some fire in him too.
We need the appropriate amount of intimidation ( i'll stare you down after I dunk on you or block your shit out but just long enough to not get in trouble ).

[PhDhawk]

David McCormack has finished in the top 2 in the last 3 games.
Remind you of anyone who got a bit hot right before last years tourney?
( the NCAA sure knows the answer )

two years away bro.

[pdub]

Two years away from playing for the Orlando Magic.

[CrimsonNBlue]

It sucks bc it means I’m spending too much time on this board, but last night when DMac was killing, I kept thinking about twocoach’s dumb ass.

2 years.

[Deleted User 89]

lmao

[jfish26]

There were a few moments last night where I thought he was going to get the old 'you are a freshman so I'm going to blow my whistle for you on a close call for over the back' but he didn't.

He's got some fire in him too.
We need the appropriate amount of intimidation ( i'll stare you down after I dunk on you or block your shit out but just long enough to not get in trouble ).

McCormack being a guy certainly improves my outlook for this team.

But miss me with the "just long enough to not get in trouble" shit. We very badly need some swagger on this team.

[NewtonHawk11]

Agreed. But I don't think this team can afford to give up 2 points on FTs from a T, either.

[PhDhawk]

It sucks bc it means I’m spending too much time on this board, but last night when DMac was killing, I kept thinking about twocoach’s dumb ass.

2 years.

He didn't post that in early Jan when McCormack was struggling either. It was after a 12/5 game that came after an 18 pt 5 board game.