twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:04 am
Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:49 am
I thought the Supreme Court ruled that gun businesses were people? So confusing.
I don't understand why legal, responsible gun owners wouldn't want some sort of tweak to gun laws to separate them from the mentally ill or irresponsible gun owners? If you have no heart and the constant murders of innocent people doesn't move the needle, then be selfish. Why isn't "you MFers are making us look bad and might force me to go through a bunch of additional costs/steps even though I handle my shit just fine" a motivation? Something has to be done,
they might as well get on board having it done in a manner that impacts them the least before some massive event happens and people force a massive overreaction change to happen.
Your whole post has historically been my view - not unlike conversations we have on other topics, my opinion has been that normie gun owners should WANT, for a lot of reasons, to re-attach the "well-regulated" part to our Second Amendment laws and jurisprudence.
Participate in shaping change, or have change forced upon you.*
But - to
this point above.
Columbine (13 body bags; school; 1999)
Virginia Tech (32; school; 2007)
Fort Hood (13; military base; 2009)
Tucson (6; US Representative shot; 2011)
Aurora (12; movie theater; 2012)
Sandy Hook (27; school; 2012)
San Bernardino (14; Department of Public Health training; 2015)
Orlando (49; nightclub; 2016)
Las Vegas (58; concert; 2017)
Sutherland Springs (26; church; 2017)
Parkland (17; school; 2018)
Santa Fe (10; school; 2018)
Pittsburgh (11; church; 2018)
Thousand Oaks (12; nightclub; 2018)
Virginia Beach (12; municipal building; 2019)
El Paso (22; Walmart; 2019)
Dayton (9; entertainment district; 2019)
Boulder (10; grocery store; 2021)
San Jose (9; transportation authority; 2021)
Highland Park (7; parade; 2022)
Buffalo (10; grocery store; 2022)
Uvalde (22; school; 2022)
Nashville (7; school; 2023)
Monterey Park (12; dance studio; 2023)
Lewiston (19; bowling alley and bar; 2023)
This of course is just a sampling.
But what about this timeline, or these numbers, or those locations and settings, makes you confident there even IS a theoretically-possible breaking point that could cause a "massive overreaction change"?
* It's not lost on me that the one outlier in our recent history of mass shootings is...2020. A lot could be said about that. For purposes of this post, I will just say that the freedum-chanting numbnutses who consider ANY new gun legislation to be an affront to their personal liberty and the start of a slippery slope to a nanny, control state...well, there is no better argument FOR moving that direction than people demonstrating over and over again that they can't be trusted with dangerous things.