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Three Light, Cordish Companies' latest luxury apartment building in downtown Kansas City, is slated to open in less than a month.

https://youtu.be/yjImVRQCmN4?si=1wwLW-ghVN6st0Q0
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The days of Kansas City being a hidden gem, from a cost of living standpoint, are mostly over. I think it’s closer to St. Louis, Minneapolis and Denver than to Omaha and Des Moines and Oklahoma City.

Which is appropriate, of course. But costs for places like this are at least 100% higher than they were even 15 years ago.
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KC clocks in at 52 here.
Omaha at 25. OKC 35.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/c ... ted+States

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Nice to see a station from St. Louis singing Kansas City's praises:

The official YouTube channel of KSDK 5 On Your Side in St. Louis, Missouri.


https://youtu.be/Ug0jCjDYF0U?si=AKk6gA8pltlxkG1O
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My issue is that KC has made Lawrence more expensive.
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This new airport rules.
Sorry haters.
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pdub wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:39 pm This new airport rules.
Sorry haters.
MCI?

I agree. A gigantic improvement.
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Yes, it’s now a far more pleasant experience before flights.
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pdub wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:19 pm Yes, it’s now a far more pleasant experience before flights.
It's a home run.

My only complaint is that the most important gates (being the SWA gates) are the hardest ones to get to. I fully understand why - they're the hardest for people to get to because they're the easiest for airplanes to get to, and that makes for better on-time performance and so on.

But I bet that 80% of the DURR THE NEW AIRPORT ISN'T CONVENIENT durring has to do with that aspect of things.
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Heaven forbid people have to walk some.
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pdub wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:36 pm Heaven forbid people have to walk some.
Of course, the REAL biggest problem with the airport...isn't an airport problem at all. It's that the region and its leadership and taxpayers can't figure out how to connect the airport to downtown, and then downtown/plaza to the burbs, by rail.
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Even just a rail downtown would be enough for most purposes.
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pdub wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:44 pm Even just a rail downtown would be enough for most purposes.
Yes - you might not know, but the bones are already laid for getting the streetcar all the way to the plaza. So that's taken care of.

But Kansas City's biggest repeated unforced error is choosing Option B over Option A, over and over:

Option A - pay 100% of what something good costs, to get 100% of what something good delivers

Option B - pay 70% of what something good costs, to get 20% of what something good delivers

A transit system that doesn't connect the Johnson County suburbs to the business/corporate core of the city is...inefficient.
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The Kansas City Royals and the Chiefs gave the public a glimpse into their plans, telling Jackson County residents that both teams are committed to staying in the area if an extension on the 3/8-cent sales tax is approved.

Officials: Old Kansas City Star location a focus for new Kansas City Royals stadium
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Chiefs, Royals mobilize to get voters to support free money for stadiums

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... r-stadiums#

…The Royals want a new stadium. The Chiefs want to renovate Arrowhead. The extension of the 3/8th of a cent sales tax would generate $2 billion in free money for both projects.

County executive Frank White initially vetoed the special election. The Jackson County legislature overturned the veto by a 7-2 vote, setting the stage for the public vote...
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:19 pm Chiefs, Royals mobilize to get voters to support free money for stadiums

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... r-stadiums#

…The Royals want a new stadium. The Chiefs want to renovate Arrowhead. The extension of the 3/8th of a cent sales tax would generate $2 billion in free money for both projects.

County executive Frank White initially vetoed the special election. The Jackson County legislature overturned the veto by a 7-2 vote, setting the stage for the public vote...
IL, but related...

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as the article pointed out, it does seem like an uphill battle. however, if ever there was ever a time and team that could make it happen, it might just be this Chiefs team
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This is a very good quote from the article:

“ The reality is that, in a league full of folks who have amassed billions under the auspices of capitalism, there’s rarely any hesitation about embracing selective socialism when it comes to paying for their stadiums.”
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pdub wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:40 am This is a very good quote from the article:

“ The reality is that, in a league full of folks who have amassed billions under the auspices of capitalism, there’s rarely any hesitation about embracing selective socialism when it comes to paying for their stadiums.”
Sports has a way of turning people on their heads, ideologically.

In my book, I wish we would just admit what's happening, which is that Jackson County taxpayers are voting to (or not to) spread the cost of a civic luxury across non-users, rather than risk the teams fleeing to Kansas (or worse).
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“Socialism” for capitalists is still capitalism

And I say “socialism” in quotations cuz socialism is actually not simply how we allocate tax dollars or whatever.

But I guess that article kinda qualifies it as “selective socialism”
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