Re: KU's DeSousa could be ruled eligible...
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:09 am
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Something like, “we haven’t heard crap on that front.” He was basically implying he thinks or is working as if the current roster is the roster and we gotta deal with it.
None of what you're saying is wrong, but there's an Ayton-, Zion- and Nassir-shaped shadow that hangs over your points. It is incongruous that Silvio is sitting while others haven't.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:37 am Fair enough.
Someone should also start a follow the rules thread so we're not in the situation. We're in at as much as any other team.
And when you've got coaches texts/phone calls being presented in FBI related trials that make your program look dirty then I doubt the NCAA is rushing to bend over backwards and give the benefit of doubt.
We're in this shit by our own doing to a large extent. Play with fire long enough you're going to get burned.
But that's not an acceptable defense to the NCAA or an acceptable excuse to breaking the rules....even though you know I think the rules are dumb.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:43 amNone of what you're saying is wrong, but there's an Ayton-, Zion- and Nassir-shaped shadow that hangs over your points. It is incongruous that Silvio is sitting while others haven't.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:37 am Fair enough.
Someone should also start a follow the rules thread so we're not in the situation. We're in at as much as any other team.
And when you've got coaches texts/phone calls being presented in FBI related trials that make your program look dirty then I doubt the NCAA is rushing to bend over backwards and give the benefit of doubt.
We're in this shit by our own doing to a large extent. Play with fire long enough you're going to get burned.
The temperature in my office just went up six degrees.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
Wasn't that for like a meal at Mcdonalds?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
I'm not arguing with you. Up until the latest stages of the trial, I strongly advocated that we dare the NCAA to come after us on Silvio. I get why we took a different path.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:51 amBut that's not an acceptable defense to the NCAA or an acceptable excuse to breaking the rules....even though you know I think the rules are dumb.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:43 amNone of what you're saying is wrong, but there's an Ayton-, Zion- and Nassir-shaped shadow that hangs over your points. It is incongruous that Silvio is sitting while others haven't.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:37 am Fair enough.
Someone should also start a follow the rules thread so we're not in the situation. We're in at as much as any other team.
And when you've got coaches texts/phone calls being presented in FBI related trials that make your program look dirty then I doubt the NCAA is rushing to bend over backwards and give the benefit of doubt.
We're in this shit by our own doing to a large extent. Play with fire long enough you're going to get burned.
Also, we could play him if we wanted to. We'd just have to risk the consequences of doing so. We declared him ineligible and then tried to get him reinstated from what I understand.
Duke/Zion apparently just said fuck it, punish us later if you can prove any of these allegations, or if you think they are true since nothing really needs to be proven. But probably helps when there is no evidence from the Duke staff or Nike employees... even if the evidence is similar to what was leaked about our staff. No duke coaches mentioned or referenced. That can't hurt.
Jesus, the lack of consistency/precedent is the point.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:52 amWasn't that for like a meal at Mcdonalds?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
They didn't say "okay you good" to the Miami player...so it's not like everyone except us is getting away with this.
Or when Wendell Carter’s name came up in the Dawkins investigation, 45 minutes later Duke tweeted that they “just completed a thorough investigation” that “totally clears his name.”CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
Makes me wonder what our coaches are so scared about. They might be feeling lucky they didn't get caught as badly as Sean Miller, because judging by the texts/calls that were leaked involving Kansas coaches, we appeared dangerously close to crossing that line.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:54 amI'm not arguing with you. Up until the latest stages of the trial, I strongly advocated that we dare the NCAA to come after us on Silvio. I get why we took a different path.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:51 amBut that's not an acceptable defense to the NCAA or an acceptable excuse to breaking the rules....even though you know I think the rules are dumb.
Also, we could play him if we wanted to. We'd just have to risk the consequences of doing so. We declared him ineligible and then tried to get him reinstated from what I understand.
Duke/Zion apparently just said fuck it, punish us later if you can prove any of these allegations, or if you think they are true since nothing really needs to be proven. But probably helps when there is no evidence from the Duke staff or Nike employees... even if the evidence is similar to what was leaked about our staff. No duke coaches mentioned or referenced. That can't hurt.
I'm just saying it's extraordinarily frustrating that we're suffering more for what was - on the ground - the same conduct as everyone else was engaged in.
We could've done that too.ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:55 amOr when Wendell Carter’s name came up in the Dawkins investigation, 45 minutes later Duke tweeted that they “just completed a thorough investigation” that “totally clears his name.”CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
"Jesus, what took so long?"ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:55 amOr when Wendell Carter’s name came up in the Dawkins investigation, 45 minutes later Duke tweeted that they “just completed a thorough investigation” that “totally clears his name.”CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
Except we've painted ourselves into a corner by playing the game with the NCAA.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:57 amWe could've done that too.ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:55 amOr when Wendell Carter’s name came up in the Dawkins investigation, 45 minutes later Duke tweeted that they “just completed a thorough investigation” that “totally clears his name.”CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:50 am Remember when Miles Bridges said, "Yep you caught me, I'll pay this back." And the NCAA was like "OK, you good!"
Still can.
"We havent heard crap" doesnt imply that at all.PortlandHawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:29 amSomething like, “we haven’t heard crap on that front.” He was basically implying he thinks or is working as if the current roster is the roster and we gotta deal with it.
Yup.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:58 amExcept we've painted ourselves into a corner by playing the game with the NCAA.