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Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:33 pm
by PhDhawk
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:28 pm the data could just as easily be used for good as it can for bad
That's like saying, I could use the money I stole from you to buy something good or bad, therefore it's ok I stole it from you.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:37 pm
by pdub
Correct.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:38 pm
by ousdahl
I suppose Zuck was prob so focused on hoarding user data that he didn't/doesn't care what content users are posting?

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:40 pm
by pdub
Oh, he cares, and they market to it, and manipulate it so that it drives user input.
Facebook is smart.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:41 pm
by ousdahl
and this is naive but, how much data are they really hoarding? and what are they doing with it?

cuz whatever they know about me, I continue to be amazed at how bad they are at actually targeting relevant ads.

I guess every now and then they'll get some gimme like a fishing company or something, but, video games? pet products? condoms?

Mark bro, I don't use any of that shit.

I don't doubt they're smart, but they're also pretty dumb.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:46 pm
by pdub
https://bgr.com/2018/12/19/facebook-loc ... u-for-ads/

"Even without access to your accurate location data from the smartphone, Facebook uses information from your browsing habits, including IP address, Wi-Fi network, and Bluetooth to pinpoint your whereabouts and place relevant ads inside its apps. And all of this happens as Facebook continues to give users the impression they can control whether or not they share location data with Facebook."

fb knows what you are browsing on the hub.
And where you're browsing it at.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:51 pm
by Deleted User 89
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:33 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:28 pm the data could just as easily be used for good as it can for bad
That's like saying, I could use the money I stole from you to buy something good or bad, therefore it's ok I stole it from you.
except i know, by being a part of that system, that they have access to my data

just like using google as my search engine

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:06 pm
by pdub
"except i know, by being a part of that system, that they have access to my data"

But this shouldn't be acceptable to the extent they are doing it.
And in turn what they can do with it.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:35 pm
by Deleted User 89
i agree

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:51 pm
by Cascadia
I guess I just don’t care that they have my data. Not sure how it negatively impacts my life.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:36 pm
by Deleted User 89
it’s the cost of doing business

just like there are “costs” associated with being a part of kcrim

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:31 pm
by pdub
LOL.
What are the costs?
I pay all the hosting fees.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:17 pm
by Deleted User 89
your tolerance of “free speech” and admitted trolls

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:40 pm
by Cascadia
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:17 pm your tolerance of “free speech” and admitted trolls
Gold

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:59 pm
by pdub
Add someone you don’t want to listen to as a foe. Problem solved.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:17 pm
by Deleted User 89
pdub wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:59 pm Add someone you don’t want to listen to as a foe. Problem solved.
enforce your own rules

problem solved

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:19 pm
by Mjl
pdub wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:06 pm "except i know, by being a part of that system, that they have access to my data"

But this shouldn't be acceptable to the extent they are doing it.
And in turn what they can do with it.
You'd rather pay for everything on the internet than have machines know your information and location?

How does that negatively affect you?

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:26 pm
by Cascadia
Mjl wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:19 pm
pdub wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:06 pm "except i know, by being a part of that system, that they have access to my data"

But this shouldn't be acceptable to the extent they are doing it.
And in turn what they can do with it.
You'd rather pay for everything on the internet than have machines know your information and location?

How does that negatively affect you?
Ma rights!

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:33 am
by Deleted User 89
coulda gone in the wildlife/outdoor thread, but...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/anim ... ife-trade/

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:30 am
by ousdahl
...have increased on Facebook despite its steps to combat...


I’m sensing a theme here...