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Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:38 am Mixed reactions to her "statement" it appears.
What reactions are mixed?

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:21 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:38 am Mixed reactions to her "statement" it appears.
What reactions are mixed?
You haven't been watching the news or reading about the reactions?

Even CNN was somewhat critical this morning when they briefly talked about it.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:23 am
by ousdahl

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:24 am
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:21 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:38 am Mixed reactions to her "statement" it appears.
What reactions are mixed?
You haven't been watching the news or reading about the reactions?

Even CNN was somewhat critical this morning when they briefly talked about it.
Is there anything that wouldn't get "mixed reactions" in this day and age? Judging anything by whether or not someone anywhere is critical of it seems like a waste of time.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 am
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:24 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:21 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am

What reactions are mixed?
You haven't been watching the news or reading about the reactions?

Even CNN was somewhat critical this morning when they briefly talked about it.
Is there anything that wouldn't get "mixed reactions" in this day and age? Judging anything by whether or not someone anywhere is critical of it seems like a waste of time.
You'll argue about anything. Slow day at the office?


When her own party/constituents are critical of it that is a problem for her.

Of course foxnews would be critical of anything, that's not the point.


Other than using a black owned designer and giving her some spotlight, very little good (for AOC or for furthering the discussion on tax reform) was accomplished. Although not many people can afford the designers $700 shoes and $1,500 bags.

She constantly vilifies the rich publicly. Then goes and spends a ridiculous amount of money to attend an expensive event, getting dressed/hair&makeup done at expensive hotel, while rubbing elbows with all the rich famous people she pretends to hate.

I personally don't care one way or the other. She wanted to grab some spotlight and go viral and she accomplished her goal. But she's getting rich and loving every minute of it, which sort of goes against a lot of her talking points.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:43 am
by ousdahl
If that bag cost $1500, then I don’t even wanna know how much the chicken sammich inside it is worth.

For real though, what if bankrupting the country prompted as much outrage as a statement to tax the rich?

how is Merica ever gonna get out of the tens of trillions in national debt we’ve accumulated if we don’t raise taxes on the rich?

Too bad her dress didn’t display some message about kicking poor folks off food stamps.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:44 am
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 am
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:24 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:21 am

You haven't been watching the news or reading about the reactions?

Even CNN was somewhat critical this morning when they briefly talked about it.
Is there anything that wouldn't get "mixed reactions" in this day and age? Judging anything by whether or not someone anywhere is critical of it seems like a waste of time.
You'll argue about anything. Slow day at the office?
Fucking hilarious coming from you.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:51 am
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:44 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 am
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:24 am

Is there anything that wouldn't get "mixed reactions" in this day and age? Judging anything by whether or not someone anywhere is critical of it seems like a waste of time.
You'll argue about anything. Slow day at the office?
Fucking hilarious coming from you.
I know right?

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:54 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:43 am If that bag cost $1500, then I don’t even wanna know how much the chicken sammich inside it is worth.

For real though, what if bankrupting the country prompted as much outrage as a statement to tax the rich?

how is Merica ever gonna get out of the tens of trillions in national debt we’ve accumulated if we don’t raise taxes on the rich?

Too bad her dress didn’t display some message about kicking poor folks off food stamps.
I don't think there is any outraging occuring from her side (in this instance) about the idea of taxing the rich more....the outrage from the left towards her over this appears to be more about that 1) this isn't accomplishing the goal of that message in any way, it's just mostly attention on herself and 2) the optics of constantly complaining about the rich while she spends more on clothes/makeup/hair/ and a place to get ready than many of her supporters make in a year (or 2).

At least that's what I am hearing/seeing on TV.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:11 am
by twocoach
There shouldn't be any outrage about it from anyone. It's a fundraiser where every year, a few people choose to make various political statements on their clothing selections. She is famous so a picture of her at an event, with or without something printed on he dress, is going to be viewed by some as ""mostly attention on herself". It's as inevitable as the sun rise.

I doubt she had to buy the bags/shoes/dress. Most famous people just get to use that stuff for free. I have no idea if she had to pay for a "place to get ready", wouldn't the designer whose clothes she is wearing deal with that? I have no idea.

Honestly, a rich person saying the rich should be taxed more is more impactful than a poor person saying the rich should be taxed more. I'd rather hear the opinions of those negatively impacted rather than those not impacted at all.

This is just a filler story; it means nothing.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:16 am
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:54 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:43 am If that bag cost $1500, then I don’t even wanna know how much the chicken sammich inside it is worth.

For real though, what if bankrupting the country prompted as much outrage as a statement to tax the rich?

how is Merica ever gonna get out of the tens of trillions in national debt we’ve accumulated if we don’t raise taxes on the rich?

Too bad her dress didn’t display some message about kicking poor folks off food stamps.
I don't think there is any outraging occuring from her side (in this instance) about the idea of taxing the rich more....the outrage from the left towards her over this appears to be more about that 1) this isn't accomplishing the goal of that message in any way, it's just mostly attention on herself and 2) the optics of constantly complaining about the rich while she spends more on clothes/makeup/hair/ and a place to get ready than many of her supporters make in a year (or 2).

At least that's what I am hearing/seeing on TV.
I can’t remember exactly which logical fallacies those may be, but both (1) and (2) come across as meant to distract from her message.

Case in point!

Neither of those points you made do anything to address my questions

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:28 am
by Deleted User 863
Your questions are a bit over the top imo. So i didn't see much reason to attempt to answer them when i know you will probably just respond with more very general / very broad statements that can't really be answered.

I think the country is far more concerned about our financial issues than the statement on her dress fwiw.

America isn't going to get out of debt without raising taxes AND cutting spending....but that is based on the assumption we actually want to get out of debt, which i am not sure is actually true when push comes to shove.


And my points weren't meant to distract from her message. They're not even necessarily "my points", but that is exactly what is being said and happening. AOC may be becoming exactly what she originally said she was against.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:38 am
by MICHHAWK
i like that she is using her sex. she has a great figure. and ain't afraid to show it off.

you go girl.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:44 am
by ousdahl
Yes!

POTD mich

I was trying to think of some joke about how any message that brings more attention to a foxy Latina’s back side is a good thing

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:52 am
by MICHHAWK
the backside of her dress is sending me messages. and they ain't political in nature.

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:54 am
by ousdahl
you wanna do what to the rich?!

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:05 pm
by ousdahl

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:08 pm
by Deleted User 863
What is she even talking about?

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:09 pm
by ousdahl
judging by the winking smiley face, I think the young lady is just flirting with Mich

Re: AOC

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:12 pm
by MICHHAWK
she is at her best when she is being seen and not heard.