Kansas Crimson

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:52 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:05 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:17 pm

"A third of the Kansas schools"?!? Come on. At what level?

Small colleges. NAIA Division 3.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:49 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:52 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:05 pm
"A third of the Kansas schools"?!? Come on. At what level?

Small colleges. NAIA Division 3.

Those levels are not even permitted to offer athletic scholarships. Baker University has an NAIA football team and has what, a 4,000 seat capacity stadium which I doubt is rarely even close to that full. And I just looked online and their tickets are $10 a piece, the same price as our local high school games. They aren't funding any portion of their university with their football team. And last season, they only played a grand total of FOUR home games. So cancelling the entire season will cost them maybe $100,000 in revenue unless they are an amazing team playing in front of constantly packed stadiums (which we all know they aren't either of those things). Factor in the decreased expenses and I doubt that would cause much of a ripple in their budget at all.

Oh, and I looked at the size of the University's incoming class. The last one I could easily was for 2017. It was one of their largest ever. It was 308.

So you're telling me that losing out on 75% of one class of about 300 kids is enough to shutter the doors to that university forever? Do I have your story straight? Please correct me if I have misread what you're getting at here.

GTFO with that freaking nonsense. You do not seem to be stupid so that means you are deliberately lying.

Grandma wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:57 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:52 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:05 pm
"A third of the Kansas schools"?!? Come on. At what level?

Small colleges. NAIA Division 3.

What is NAIA Division 3 and do they offer athletic scholarships?

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:49 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:52 pm

Small colleges. NAIA Division 3.

Those levels are not even permitted to offer athletic scholarships. Baker University has an NAIA football team and has what, a 4,000 seat capacity stadium which I doubt is rarely even close to that full. And I just looked online and their tickets are $10 a piece, the same price as our local high school games. They aren't funding any portion of their university with their football team. And last season, they only played a grand total of FOUR home games. So cancelling the entire season will cost them maybe $100,000 in revenue unless they are an amazing team playing in front of constantly packed stadiums (which we all know they aren't either of those things). Factor in the decreased expenses and I doubt that would cause much of a ripple in their budget at all.

Oh, and I looked at the size of the University's incoming class. The last one I could easily was for 2017. It was one of their largest ever. It was 308.

So you're telling me that losing out on 75% of one class of about 300 kids is enough to shutter the doors to that university forever? Do I have your story straight? Please correct me if I have misread what you're getting at here.

GTFO with that freaking nonsense. You do not seem to be stupid so that means you are deliberately lying.

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:02 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:49 pm
Those levels are not even permitted to offer athletic scholarships. Baker University has an NAIA football team and has what, a 4,000 seat capacity stadium which I doubt is rarely even close to that full. And I just looked online and their tickets are $10 a piece, the same price as our local high school games. They aren't funding any portion of their university with their football team. And last season, they only played a grand total of FOUR home games. So cancelling the entire season will cost them maybe $100,000 in revenue unless they are an amazing team playing in front of constantly packed stadiums (which we all know they aren't either of those things). Factor in the decreased expenses and I doubt that would cause much of a ripple in their budget at all.

Oh, and I looked at the size of the University's incoming class. The last one I could easily was for 2017. It was one of their largest ever. It was 308.

So you're telling me that losing out on 75% of one class of about 300 kids is enough to shutter the doors to that university forever? Do I have your story straight? Please correct me if I have misread what you're getting at here.

GTFO with that freaking nonsense. You do not seem to be stupid so that means you are deliberately lying.

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

The only problem with that is that all that stuff is made up. They aren't canceling all those things. Like everything else, you need to overdramatize everything to justify your nonsense.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:02 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

The only problem with that is that all that stuff is made up. They aren't canceling all those things. Like everything else, you need to overdramatize everything to justify your nonsense.

I hope you’re right. Those of us whose livelihoods are dependent upon it - and who have access to actual facts - are genuinely concerned. I’m glad you have the luxury of being so cavalier about it. Must be nice.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:15 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:02 pm
The only problem with that is that all that stuff is made up. They aren't canceling all those things. Like everything else, you need to overdramatize everything to justify your nonsense.

I hope you’re right. Those of us whose livelihoods are dependent upon it - and who have access to actual facts - are genuinely concerned. I’m glad you have the luxury of being so cavalier about it. Must be nice.

Once again, your use of the word "facts" is a little hazy. You have applied fuzzy logic and a bunch of assumptions and incorrect data to some info you had in a conversation and have labeled them "facts". I believe those are referred to as "alternative facts" AKA just random numbers.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:02 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

The only problem with that is that all that stuff is made up. They aren't canceling all those things. Like everything else, you need to overdramatize everything to justify your nonsense.

I hope you’re right. Those of us whose livelihoods are dependent upon it - and who have access to actual facts - are genuinely concerned. I’m glad you have the luxury of being so cavalier about it. Must be nice.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:49 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:52 pm

Small colleges. NAIA Division 3.

Those levels are not even permitted to offer athletic scholarships. Baker University has an NAIA football team and has what, a 4,000 seat capacity stadium which I doubt is rarely even close to that full. And I just looked online and their tickets are $10 a piece, the same price as our local high school games. They aren't funding any portion of their university with their football team. And last season, they only played a grand total of FOUR home games. So cancelling the entire season will cost them maybe $100,000 in revenue unless they are an amazing team playing in front of constantly packed stadiums (which we all know they aren't either of those things). Factor in the decreased expenses and I doubt that would cause much of a ripple in their budget at all.

Oh, and I looked at the size of the University's incoming class. The last one I could easily was for 2017. It was one of their largest ever. It was 308.

So you're telling me that losing out on 75% of one class of about 300 kids is enough to shutter the doors to that university forever? Do I have your story straight? Please correct me if I have misread what you're getting at here.

GTFO with that freaking nonsense. You do not seem to be stupid so that means you are deliberately lying.

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:16 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:02 pm
The only problem with that is that all that stuff is made up. They aren't canceling all those things. Like everything else, you need to overdramatize everything to justify your nonsense.

I hope you’re right. Those of us whose livelihoods are dependent upon it - and who have access to actual facts - are genuinely concerned. I’m glad you have the luxury of being so cavalier about it. Must be nice.

Lol. Again, really don’t wish anyone to lose their job or fear that, but it’s ridiculous that you down play the same fear many others have for an increased potential to lose their life.

So, livelihood > lives, or so it seems to read, based on your defense of it being more ok for you to be concerned with losing your job over their osing their existence.

You using cavalier there is really obtuse when measured against your response to increasing infection rates.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:04 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:49 pm
Those levels are not even permitted to offer athletic scholarships. Baker University has an NAIA football team and has what, a 4,000 seat capacity stadium which I doubt is rarely even close to that full. And I just looked online and their tickets are $10 a piece, the same price as our local high school games. They aren't funding any portion of their university with their football team. And last season, they only played a grand total of FOUR home games. So cancelling the entire season will cost them maybe $100,000 in revenue unless they are an amazing team playing in front of constantly packed stadiums (which we all know they aren't either of those things). Factor in the decreased expenses and I doubt that would cause much of a ripple in their budget at all.

Oh, and I looked at the size of the University's incoming class. The last one I could easily was for 2017. It was one of their largest ever. It was 308.

So you're telling me that losing out on 75% of one class of about 300 kids is enough to shutter the doors to that university forever? Do I have your story straight? Please correct me if I have misread what you're getting at here.

GTFO with that freaking nonsense. You do not seem to be stupid so that means you are deliberately lying.

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

So 120 of 600 students at the school are football players? Sounds like having a football team at the school isn't having the positive impact on enrollment that you're claiming it does.

This is what happens when you try to formulate a kooky conspiracy yourself. You need to work out the kinks in your shtick or stick to copying and pasting them off reddit threads or wherever your ilk go to get your "One World Government" material.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:05 pm Well, if the liberals get their way we won’t need a livelihood. Our livelihood will be gov’t teet supple’ing.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:28 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:05 pm Well, if the liberals get their way we won’t need a livelihood. Our livelihood will be gov’t teet supple’ing.

That seems to be the end game.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:05 pm Well, if the liberals get their way we won’t need a livelihood. Our livelihood will be gov’t teet supple’ing.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:01 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:05 pm Well, if the liberals get their way we won’t need a livelihood. Our livelihood will be gov’t teet supple’ing.

I get that this world view of what liberals want helps justify your world view but it's not based in reality at all.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:04 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:04 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm

They cannot offer FULL scholarships, but the opportunity to play college football (or whatever other sport) is the main draw for kids from California, Texas, and Arizona to come to Kansas, even if it is only a few thousand dollars a year.

One league school runs about 600 students a year, 120 of which (on average) are football players. Do the math: if a business loses 20% of its revenue - and that doesn’t account for volleyball, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, and cross country that also would likely not compete - it goes under. My school is not quite that bad, but it is similar in its ratios. Even before you factor in the reality that enrollment numbers are already down 10-12% for Fall because of families not wanting to send their children away from home in a crisis, a lost athletic season would be catastrophic.

But, hey, on the bright side, you guys will get your candidate back in the White House, so I guess it was all worth it. Congrats!

So 120 of 600 students at the school are football players? Sounds like having a football team at the school isn't having the positive impact on enrollment that you're claiming it does.

This is what happens when you try to formulate a kooky conspiracy yourself. You need to work out the kinks in your shtick or stick to copying and pasting them off reddit threads or wherever your ilk go to get your "One World Government" material.

I can’t tell if you’re being purposely obtuse or if you’re just actually this dumb. Either way, I’m done with this discussion. Best of luck to you in comprehending how to bathe, feed yourself, tie your shoes, and other equally complex tasks.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:06 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:01 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:05 pm Well, if the liberals get their way we won’t need a livelihood. Our livelihood will be gov’t teet supple’ing.

I get that this world view of what liberals want helps justify your world view but it's not based in reality at all.

If the liberals "get their way," then taxes will be responsibly and justifiably increased at the far-right reaches of the income bell curve, and - my stars! - things like universal healthcare and pre-K will ensure that people toward the left end of the income bell curve have a fucking chance.