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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:13 pm
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm (Yes, that bit is obviously cherry picked, for its irony, and is not meant to take away from how fucked up the shadow Secretary of State shit is)
You'll have to indulge me. What's the irony?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:19 pm
by KUTradition
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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:40 pm
by ousdahl
That’s a pretty rad gif.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:04 pm
by ousdahl
jfish26 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:13 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm (Yes, that bit is obviously cherry picked, for its irony, and is not meant to take away from how fucked up the shadow Secretary of State shit is)
You'll have to indulge me. What's the irony?
Since when has meeting with far right authoritarians been a weird thing for the Secretary of State to do?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:49 pm
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:04 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:13 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm (Yes, that bit is obviously cherry picked, for its irony, and is not meant to take away from how fucked up the shadow Secretary of State shit is)
You'll have to indulge me. What's the irony?
Since when has meeting with far right authoritarians been a weird thing for the Secretary of State to do?
I mean, I can identify one hole in this analysis.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:39 am
by ousdahl
I bet you can, CoyDC.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:36 am
by twocoach
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho ... rcna146351

"In light of Donald Trump’s overtly anti-immigrant platform, it wasn’t too surprising to see the Republican seize on the story of Ruby Garcia, a 25-year-old Michigan woman who was allegedly murdered by an undocumented immigrant. At a campaign event this week, the former president referenced Garcia and boasted, “I spoke to some of her family."

"Garcia’s sister said Trump didn’t speak with anyone from the family, and she criticized him for politicizing her sister’s death. “He did not speak with any of us,” Ruby’s sister, Mavi Garcia, said in an interview with NBC affiliate WOOD-TV. “So it’s kind of shocking seeing that he had said he had spoken with us ... misinforming people on live TV,” she said."

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:42 am
by KUTradition
take it to the immigration thread ;)

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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:47 pm
by jfish26
Gutter alert, I spent some time last week with a D member of Congress.

The conversation was interesting - this person expressed optimism and had kind words for several Rs, but says that in this person's view, you have to put pesky little things like "this other person is an election denier, and election deniers tried to murder me" on the back burner.

I'm not sure I could do that! And I have mixed feelings about whether that sort of pragmatism is justified or even okay.

What I found most illuminating was an example of just how much certain Rs work against their constituencies' actual interests (in service of their fever dreams). For example, certain Rs representing poor rural districts will get behind microphones and talk about things like balanced budget amendments and/or flat __% cuts across all federal programs.

Well, the reality is that things like that would disproportionately affect...poor rural districts, which do not have the local-level tax bases (to address budget gaps) as do (evil, Democrat-run) cities.

The analysis is sort of like why flat consumption taxes are disproportionately harsh on lower earners, but I hadn't considered it on the spending side.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:08 am
by KUTradition
trump literally has zero idea what FISA is or does

but let’s not let that stop the house from acting a fool

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:39 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:08 am trump literally has zero idea what FISA is or does

but let’s not let that stop the house from acting a fool
Or, much more concerning, he does.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:56 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jfish26 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:47 pm Gutter alert, I spent some time last week with a D member of Congress.

The conversation was interesting - this person expressed optimism and had kind words for several Rs, but says that in this person's view, you have to put pesky little things like "this other person is an election denier, and election deniers tried to murder me" on the back burner.

I'm not sure I could do that! And I have mixed feelings about whether that sort of pragmatism is justified or even okay.

What I found most illuminating was an example of just how much certain Rs work against their constituencies' actual interests (in service of their fever dreams). For example, certain Rs representing poor rural districts will get behind microphones and talk about things like balanced budget amendments and/or flat __% cuts across all federal programs.

Well, the reality is that things like that would disproportionately affect...poor rural districts, which do not have the local-level tax bases (to address budget gaps) as do (evil, Democrat-run) cities.

The analysis is sort of like why flat consumption taxes are disproportionately harsh on lower earners, but I hadn't considered it on the spending side.
I wish we had a Gutter alert instead of a GutterMeter.

For an example of how fucked up our political system is in regards to your post....
See Arizona?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:34 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:39 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:08 am trump literally has zero idea what FISA is or does

but let’s not let that stop the house from acting a fool
Or, much more concerning, he does.
nah

or, if he does, he doesn’t care (or even really know, in the moment) that his characterization is wrong. to me, he just throws as much shit at the wall as possible…there isn’t some well-thought-out, detailed plan

quite literally just flooding the zone with shit with no regard for truth or consequences

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:43 am
by KUTradition
do you think he’s intentionally misrepresenting what FISA is/does in order to halt its renewal and handcuff the FBI on collecting intel from, say, russia?

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:53 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:43 am do you think he’s intentionally misrepresenting what FISA is/does in order to halt its renewal and handcuff the FBI on collecting intel from, say, russia?
I think that the manner in which FISA protects people is something he would like to go away in a second (forever) Trump administration.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:53 pm
by Shirley

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:55 pm
by Shirley
Lindy Li has a potty mouth:

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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:00 pm
by Sparko
GOP men are the problem.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:32 pm
by Shirley

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:26 pm
by jfish26
People like Barr deserve so much more derision and contempt than do the rubes.