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Folks --
You make a lot of important decisions as president. But the first one is who you select to be your Vice President. I’ve decided that Kamala Harris is the best person to help me take this fight to Donald Trump and Mike Pence and then to lead this nation starting in January 2021.
I’d like to tell you why, but first I’m going to ask you to add your name and welcome Kamala to our team.
These aren’t normal times. For the first time in our history, we’re facing three historic crises -- all at the same time. We’re facing the worst pandemic in 100 years. The worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. The most powerful calls for racial justice in a generation. And we have a president who has both failed to lead on the virus -- costing lives and decimating our economy -- and fanned the flames of hate and division.
I need someone working alongside me who is smart, tough, and ready to lead. Kamala is that person.
I need someone who understands the pain that so many people in our nation are suffering. Whether they’ve lost their job, their business, a loved one to this virus. This president says he “doesn’t want to be distracted by it.” He doesn’t understand that taking care of the people of this nation -- all the people -- isn’t a distraction -- it’s the job. Kamala understands that.
I need someone who understands that we are in a battle for the soul of this nation. And that if we’re going to get through these crises -- we need to come together and unite for a better America. Kamala gets that.
If I’m President, I’m committed to making things better -- not just in the short term, but sustainably, structurally, and permanently. We won’t have time to delay. I need a partner who can help deliver on those promises, and quickly.
I was privileged to serve this nation for two terms as Vice President alongside President Obama, a man of extraordinary character who I believe will go down in history as one of our great presidents. So, I know a thing or two about being Vice President. More than anything, I know it can’t be a political decision. It has to be a governing decision. If the people of this nation entrust me and Kamala with the office of President and Vice President for the next four years, we’re going to inherit a nation in crisis, a nation divided, and a world in disarray. We won’t have a minute to waste.
That’s what led me to Kamala Harris.
As a United States Senator from California, Kamala represents the biggest state in the union. She’s been one of the toughest and most effective Senators on two of the most important committees in the Senate -- Intelligence and Judiciary. Two committees that have directly dealt with some of the most important issues facing this nation at home and around the world.
She sits on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, where she deals with the nation’s most sensitive threats.
We’ve all watched her hold the Trump administration accountable for its corruption, stand up to a Justice Department that’s run amok, and be a powerful voice against their extreme nominations.
She’s been a leader on criminal justice and marriage equality. And she has focused like a laser on the racial disparities as a result of the coronavirus.
As California’s Attorney General, she led one of the biggest legal departments in the nation -- where she was a powerful advocate for people in taking on the big banks and protecting women and kids from abuse. She’s delivered billions in settlement money to consumers, taking on companies for fraud, pollution and abuse.
I first met Kamala through my son Beau. They were both Attorneys General at the same time. He had enormous respect for her and her work. I thought a lot about that as I made this decision. There is no one’s opinion I valued more than Beau’s and I’m proud to have Kamala standing with me on this campaign.
Her record of accomplishment -- fighting tooth and nail for what’s right -- is why I’m choosing her. There is no door Kamala won’t knock on, no stone she’ll leave unturned, if it means making life better -- for the people.
So join me today in welcoming Kamala Harris to our team.
She will wake up every day -- like I will -- thinking about how to make life better for people. How to rebuild our country back better. How to make it more just. How to win the next fight in the battle for the soul of this nation.
Because that’s what the Presidency -- and the Vice Presidency -- is. It’s a duty to care: for you, for all of us. This will be the fight of our administration, and there’s no better partner that I could have asked for.
Thanks for everything,
- Joe
P.S. We’ll be holding a grassroots fundraiser tomorrow so she can get a chance to talk to some of the grassroots supporters who have powered this campaign. I’d love it if you could join us. So add your name to give her a warm welcome and then pitch in to join us.
You make a lot of important decisions as president. But the first one is who you select to be your Vice President. I’ve decided that Kamala Harris is the best person to help me take this fight to Donald Trump and Mike Pence and then to lead this nation starting in January 2021.
I’d like to tell you why, but first I’m going to ask you to add your name and welcome Kamala to our team.
These aren’t normal times. For the first time in our history, we’re facing three historic crises -- all at the same time. We’re facing the worst pandemic in 100 years. The worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. The most powerful calls for racial justice in a generation. And we have a president who has both failed to lead on the virus -- costing lives and decimating our economy -- and fanned the flames of hate and division.
I need someone working alongside me who is smart, tough, and ready to lead. Kamala is that person.
I need someone who understands the pain that so many people in our nation are suffering. Whether they’ve lost their job, their business, a loved one to this virus. This president says he “doesn’t want to be distracted by it.” He doesn’t understand that taking care of the people of this nation -- all the people -- isn’t a distraction -- it’s the job. Kamala understands that.
I need someone who understands that we are in a battle for the soul of this nation. And that if we’re going to get through these crises -- we need to come together and unite for a better America. Kamala gets that.
If I’m President, I’m committed to making things better -- not just in the short term, but sustainably, structurally, and permanently. We won’t have time to delay. I need a partner who can help deliver on those promises, and quickly.
I was privileged to serve this nation for two terms as Vice President alongside President Obama, a man of extraordinary character who I believe will go down in history as one of our great presidents. So, I know a thing or two about being Vice President. More than anything, I know it can’t be a political decision. It has to be a governing decision. If the people of this nation entrust me and Kamala with the office of President and Vice President for the next four years, we’re going to inherit a nation in crisis, a nation divided, and a world in disarray. We won’t have a minute to waste.
That’s what led me to Kamala Harris.
As a United States Senator from California, Kamala represents the biggest state in the union. She’s been one of the toughest and most effective Senators on two of the most important committees in the Senate -- Intelligence and Judiciary. Two committees that have directly dealt with some of the most important issues facing this nation at home and around the world.
She sits on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, where she deals with the nation’s most sensitive threats.
We’ve all watched her hold the Trump administration accountable for its corruption, stand up to a Justice Department that’s run amok, and be a powerful voice against their extreme nominations.
She’s been a leader on criminal justice and marriage equality. And she has focused like a laser on the racial disparities as a result of the coronavirus.
As California’s Attorney General, she led one of the biggest legal departments in the nation -- where she was a powerful advocate for people in taking on the big banks and protecting women and kids from abuse. She’s delivered billions in settlement money to consumers, taking on companies for fraud, pollution and abuse.
I first met Kamala through my son Beau. They were both Attorneys General at the same time. He had enormous respect for her and her work. I thought a lot about that as I made this decision. There is no one’s opinion I valued more than Beau’s and I’m proud to have Kamala standing with me on this campaign.
Her record of accomplishment -- fighting tooth and nail for what’s right -- is why I’m choosing her. There is no door Kamala won’t knock on, no stone she’ll leave unturned, if it means making life better -- for the people.
So join me today in welcoming Kamala Harris to our team.
She will wake up every day -- like I will -- thinking about how to make life better for people. How to rebuild our country back better. How to make it more just. How to win the next fight in the battle for the soul of this nation.
Because that’s what the Presidency -- and the Vice Presidency -- is. It’s a duty to care: for you, for all of us. This will be the fight of our administration, and there’s no better partner that I could have asked for.
Thanks for everything,
- Joe
P.S. We’ll be holding a grassroots fundraiser tomorrow so she can get a chance to talk to some of the grassroots supporters who have powered this campaign. I’d love it if you could join us. So add your name to give her a warm welcome and then pitch in to join us.
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I saw the worst minds of my generation empowered by madness, bloated farcical naked,
dragging themselves through the whitewashed streets at dawn looking for a grievance fix.
dragging themselves through the whitewashed streets at dawn looking for a grievance fix.
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I wouldn't be celebrating this news, is all I'm saying. He chose pretty much the worst possible person. While I do think Biden has the edge, a lot can happen, and this doesn't help the left. This is the weakest ticket the democrats have ever had in my lifetime.
"This whole thing was a big dick-waving contest, it's just that my dick was bigger than yours."
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You keep posting shit for attention and then when you get it and people try to directly engage you with questions and comments, you ignore them. Why? Is it because you don't have a leg to stand on? Or you need to go find YouTube videos to support your "arguments"? Or is there another reason?Walrus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:02 pm I wouldn't be celebrating this news, is all I'm saying. He chose pretty much the worst possible person. While I do think Biden has the edge, a lot can happen, and this doesn't help the left. This is the weakest ticket the democrats have ever had in my lifetime.
Congratulations, you have succeeded in annoying me. Give yourself a pat on the back.
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Gutter, one more time -- you have to earn my time. Take a look at Illy if you want to see an example of someone who knows how to have a "discussion."
"This whole thing was a big dick-waving contest, it's just that my dick was bigger than yours."
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I have to earn your time? You're implying I don't know how to have a discussion?
Who the fuck do you think you are? Someone who is superior to me and that I am supposed to respect?
As far as I am concerned, you're really nothing more to me than at times - an annoying person on a message board.
Like I said, congratulations on that.
I have attempted to engage you respectfully in terms of your attention seeking posts and clearly you choose to be nothing more towards me than a clueless fuck who has no spine, brain, or balls in terms of backing up the shit you spew. Good for you!
How'd I do there? Are you happy? Did I appease you with my post?
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The only thing Biden assured us was that his running mate would be a woman. Not sure why you're so obsessed with Kamala's race.
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That's no way to "earn" his time, Gutman. Try again.Grandma wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:30 pmI have to earn your time? You're implying I don't know how to have a discussion?
Who the fuck do you think you are? Someone who is superior to me and that I am supposed to respect?
As far as I am concerned, you're really nothing more to me than at times - an annoying person on a message board.
Like I said, congratulations on that.
I have attempted to engage you respectfully in terms of your attention seeking posts and clearly you choose to be nothing more towards me than a clueless fuck who has no spine, brain, or balls in terms of backing up the shit you spew. Good for you!
How'd I do there? Are you happy? Did I appease you with my post?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... gn=wp_main
No, Kamala Harris didn’t call Joe Biden racist
The very first words of the very first statement that President Trump’s reelection campaign offered in response to the selection of Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) to be Joe Biden’s running mate were false.
“Not long ago,” the statement from campaign adviser Katrina Pierson read, “Kamala Harris called Joe Biden a racist and asked for an apology she never received.”
None of that is true, and given the alacrity with which similar claims spread following the Harris announcement, it’s worth explaining why.
The claim apparently stems from a moment in the first Democratic primary debate in late June 2019, when Harris and the former vice president were both contending for the party’s nomination. The candidates on the stage, all 10 of them, were discussing then-South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s record with his city’s Black population.
Harris, seizing the floor, used the moment to pivot to criticism of Biden, the candidate who had continually led in the polls. Earlier that month, Biden touted his ability to work with senators with whom he disagreed, including ones who supported segregation.
“I was actually very — it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country,” Harris said. “And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing” — that is, federal efforts to integrate schools by busing Black students into largely White districts.
“You know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day,” Harris continued. “And that little girl was me.”
Biden, clearly taken aback, called it “a mischaracterization of my position across the board” and insisted that he “did not praise racists.” The two went back and forth on Biden’s record on busing for a while, and then the conversation moved on.
It was an effective attack that briefly elevated Harris into the upper tier of the field. But it was not an accusation that Biden was racist.
In fact, Harris prefaced her comments by specifically saying she wasn’t making that accusation.
“I’m going to now direct this at Vice President Biden,” she said when she got the floor. “I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.”
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), a frequent foil of Harris’s during the primary race, was one of the first to nonetheless allege that Harris called Biden racist, as she did in a later tweet. This was in part simply a framing of the exchange. But it was also a broader function of Harris’s insistence that Biden be accountable for his comments about the segregationists.
In a speech a few days after the debate, Biden expressed regret for what he had said.
“Was I wrong a few weeks ago to somehow give the impression to people that I was praising those men who I successfully opposed time and again? Yes, I was. I regret it,” Biden said. “I’m sorry for any of the pain or misconception I may have caused anybody.”
The “anybody” clearly included Harris. She responded.
“He says he’s sorry, and I’m going to take him at his word,” she told CNN. “But again that doesn’t address the issue of busing in America.” Harris also said that Biden was “right to recognize the impact of his words” and that his apology demanded “courage.”
That, again, is not how the Trump campaign statement presented the interactions. Instead, Trump’s team — or, at least, Pierson — appears to be using “called him racist” in the ironically broad sense of “raised questions about his approach to race.” It’s a not-uncommon conflation to assume that race-centered questions about behavior are necessarily questions about racist intent, but it’s a generally unsophisticated one. What’s more, if that’s the bar for calling someone a racist, there are probably few politicians in America who have been “called a racist” more frequently than Pierson’s boss, President Trump.
Often literally. A January poll conducted by The Washington Post and Ipsos found that 4 in 5 Black Americans consider Trump to be racist; a slightly larger percentage said they thought Trump had exacerbated racism in the country. A Quinnipiac University poll released last July found that a majority of Americans similarly believed Trump is racist. That’s the current against which Trump has been trying — unsuccessfully — to swim.
That’s the point of the statement, of course: to muddy the water on Biden’s and Trump’s records on race. With an eye to that goal, Trump has repeatedly claimed to have done more for Black Americans than any prior president, with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. In an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt that aired Tuesday, Trump said he expected to win more Black votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.
Anything is possible. But misrepresenting Harris’s views of Biden’s history is a dishonest way to try to do so.
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TBF, he announced that I believe before any primary (or at least very early on in the primary season) and it was absolutely a play to hopefully get some votes (being super old white guy). I don't think it makes a difference in the end in the primaries, but he was floundering around the time he said it, and it wasn't until the establishment cleared the field for him that he was able to finally put away Bernie and Liz.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:21 pm I think it would have been a bigger splash (and seemed more genuine) had he not announced months ago he would pick a woman.
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My point proven. lolGrandma wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:30 pmI have to earn your time? You're implying I don't know how to have a discussion?
Who the fuck do you think you are? Someone who is superior to me and that I am supposed to respect?
As far as I am concerned, you're really nothing more to me than at times - an annoying person on a message board.
Like I said, congratulations on that.
I have attempted to engage you respectfully in terms of your attention seeking posts and clearly you choose to be nothing more towards me than a clueless fuck who has no spine, brain, or balls in terms of backing up the shit you spew. Good for you!
How'd I do there? Are you happy? Did I appease you with my post?
I'm sure you talk to your friends and family like this, right?
Again, study how Illy communicates..."This whole thing was a big dick-waving contest, it's just that my dick was bigger than yours."
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Would be great if Kamala has a presser, plays the clip of Trump bashing her today, and then just starts laughing.
Followed by saying what a petty little whiney hypocritical bitch he is.
Of course using better words than I just did.
I honestly think if Trump has half a brain he might be shitting in his pants because he knows Pence is a pussy and he should be fearing that Kamala will destroy him in the debate in October.
Will be interesting to see if people feel Trump (and/or Pence) may pull a shocker and Trump chooses a different VP running mate.
Might be "shocking" but I figure nothing should really surprise me at this point. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised/shocked if Biden pulls out at the last minute and Kamala becomes the Presidential candidate.
I would take the odds against us seeing Biden/Harris and Trump/Pence on November 3rd. I've said it numerous times - and I still think something bizarre is going to happen.
Followed by saying what a petty little whiney hypocritical bitch he is.
Of course using better words than I just did.
I honestly think if Trump has half a brain he might be shitting in his pants because he knows Pence is a pussy and he should be fearing that Kamala will destroy him in the debate in October.
Will be interesting to see if people feel Trump (and/or Pence) may pull a shocker and Trump chooses a different VP running mate.
Might be "shocking" but I figure nothing should really surprise me at this point. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised/shocked if Biden pulls out at the last minute and Kamala becomes the Presidential candidate.
I would take the odds against us seeing Biden/Harris and Trump/Pence on November 3rd. I've said it numerous times - and I still think something bizarre is going to happen.
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More often than not it means the person receiving the insult was being a condescending asshole.
Which is pretty much how you post these days....besides youtube videos.
I only came to kick some ass...
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
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Honestly, out of the 4 people (Trump, Pence, Biden and Harris), Pence is probably the one most Americans would want to lead right now. Harris is not all that popular out here in California due to her corrupt record. It's very hard to beat a president who has already won, and this is the weakest ticket since 2004, but even worse. It remains to be seen if we actually have the debates. Trump would destroy poor Biden, but Harris against Pence would be interesting.
"This whole thing was a big dick-waving contest, it's just that my dick was bigger than yours."
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WTF are you smoking? I know that we have some good stuff around here, but this is excessive! I live in California and I’ll be surprised if Trump gets 30% this time. Pence is the most evil of the four because unlike Trump he actually has more than two functional brain cells. They don’t function well but they function