Strikes

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i’ll just assume that’s not a serious question
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We’ll just assume that no one has the answer.
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I think dolomite has a point.

Why should politicians be the ones to decide these things for workers?

We should just let the workers decide these things.
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so you aren’t in favor of legislation raising wages when the free market fails to do so?

interesting
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and i’d imagine the fact that the kaiser strikes are in numerous states and involve something like eight different unions, just might make it a bit difficult for any single entity (other than kaiser) to fix
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KUTradition wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:54 pm so you aren’t in favor of legislation raising wages when the free market fails to do so?

interesting
yea, I am in favor of raising wages. at least while we still have to put up with things like "free markets." That's to say, I'm in favor of raising wages pretty much however we can. at least while we still have to put up with things like wages.

I was more so alluding to just letting the workers control the memes of production. You know, bring something more democratic to economic decisions, like we value with political decisions.

speaking of, I saw one about how that one ogre wears a hoodie to the senate floor one time and within like 4 days they manage to all get together and pass a dress code legislation just like that; yet when it comes to raising the minimum wage, they just don't have the time or whatever.

and another yet, sorta thought provoking: "Who will be the John Brown of wage slavery?"
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I’ve also seen this take that the best thing that could happen to the frightening perspective thread (among other threads) , and the nation and world at large, would be a well-organized general strike.

Let’s bring the economy to its knees, and let evil rich people know who really makes things happen.

But, yea, the rub is “well-organized,” and doing it in a way meant to specifically enough counter the frightening perspective thread…and doing it in a way that doesn’t starve so many of the workers who are already living paycheck to paycheck (speaking of wage slaves…)
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ousdahl wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:25 pm
KUTradition wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:54 pm so you aren’t in favor of legislation raising wages when the free market fails to do so?

interesting
yea, I am in favor of raising wages. at least while we still have to put up with things like "free markets." That's to say, I'm in favor of raising wages pretty much however we can. at least while we still have to put up with things like wages.

I was more so alluding to just letting the workers control the memes of production. You know, bring something more democratic to economic decisions, like we value with political decisions.

speaking of, I saw one about how that one ogre wears a hoodie to the senate floor one time and within like 4 days they manage to all get together and pass a dress code legislation just like that; yet when it comes to raising the minimum wage, they just don't have the time or whatever.

and another yet, sorta thought provoking: "Who will be the John Brown of wage slavery?"
so then what point do you think dolo was trying to make?
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I dunno.

Something full Qusdahl
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you don’t know?

then why’d you say you thought he had a point?
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Like I said dude, I was trying to suggest maybe if we give the say to workers then we eventually won’t even need things like politicians any more
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“We are living through a revolt against the future. The future will prevail.”
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Damn

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