New Mac Talk

[pdub]

Avoid if boring/too neurotic/humblecarltonbragg etc:

Have a MacBook Pro late 17, 3.1 Ghz Quad i7, 16 GB RAM.
I target display that to a 27 inch 2013 imac as my monitor at home.
Newer mac's don't support that anymore ( thanks Apple ).

Looked at trade in value for new mac: $850.
Trade in value for imac: $200.

Newer m1 8GB chip ( 2020 ) has out performed 2019's 2016 inch macbook pro 4.8 Ghz i9 in most tasks ( excluding video/3D rendering which is a valid consideration for me - but only 7 to 12% better ).

Options:

1. Mac Mini with m1 chip with 512 GB storage is 899.
Pros: Cheap. Just as fast/faster as 2019 Macbook 16 inch.
Cons: No keyboard or mouse. ( i have those ). Would have to buy a monitor. Can't really work on things unless I have a monitor.

2. Macbook Pro 16 inch ( 2019 ). i9 up to 4.8 ghz. 16 GB RAM. Radeon pro 5500 M. 512 GB storage. 2800.
Pros: Biggest screen for laptop. Fastest option for rendering video/3d.
Cons: Expensive. Also in day to day tasks, including the Adobe Suite and XCode, actually slower than M1 chip computers. Will need to buy a monitor for day to day.

3. Macbook Pro 13 inch ( 2020 ). m1 chip with 512 GB storage is 1499.
Pros: Just as fast/faster as 2019 Macbook 16 inch. Portable, light, best battery life.
Cons: Smaller screen if not connected to a monitor for day to day work. Slightly slower video render. Will need to buy a monitor for day to day.

4. iMac 24 ( 2021 ). m1 chip with 512 GB storage is 1699.
Pros: Just as fast/faster as 2019 Macbook 16 inch. Comes with a top of the line display.
Cons: Only the one display. Not portable.

[Deleted User 865]

I thought you said you got your COVID shot? Why the fuck you talking Apple products?

[CrimsonNBlue]

All I know is that the M1 chip is like entering a newly discovered dimension. Apple fucking nailed it.

[colbond]

Yeah I'm waiting to upgrade until I can get an m1 (or newer) 15/16" macbook pro.

[PhDhawk]

I thought this was a David McCormack thread.

[Wiff]

At first glance, I thought this was an Always Sunny thread.

[Mjl]

1. Monitor shouldn't be that expensive, might even be able to find good deals on slightly used since people are going back to offices.

[pdub]

I thought you said you got your COVID shot? Why the fuck you talking Apple products?

Only one shot so far.
I'm just typing this in before I loose complete control.

[pdub]

Yeah I'm waiting to upgrade until I can get an m1 (or newer) 15/16" macbook pro.

I was thinking this but my theory is a 13 inch will be good enough for casual on the go work.

[Deleted User 880]

For whatever any of this is worth - which is probably nothing.
My mother had a new (late 2020/early 2021?) MacBook Air with an M1 chip.
I won't go in to the nightmares she (and I) had with it - and Apple. All I will say is the thing was a defective piece of shit and Apple customer service continuously blew gigantic whale dick.
That being said, her replacement is running extremely well. Granted, she doesn't really use it for much.

[pdub]

I thought this was a David McCormack thread.

David McCormack preforms like a 2017 27 inch 3.5 GHz i5 iMac.
Fans compare him to a 2002 G4 700 MHz eMac.

[CrimsonNBlue]

For whatever any of this is worth - which is probably nothing.
My mother had a new (late 2020/early 2021?) MacBook Air with an M1 chip.
I won't go in to the nightmares she (and I) had with it - and Apple. All I will say is the thing was a defective piece of shit and Apple customer service continuously blew gigantic whale dick.
That being said, her replacement is running extremely well. Granted, she doesn't really use it for much.

Sounds like just a lemon issue and is fine now.


I haven't been this pleased with a new Apple innovation since the iPhone. AirPods and iPad were also great, but this feels like Apple's first big hit in quite awhile on the personal computer side of things. And it's the first version of their silicon. They are going to sell a shit-ton of computers over next decade+.

[pdub]

I'm curious why CnB is so hyped from the chip - what software is he running that demands that power - or does he just have 3000 pornhub windows open all at the same time?

[CrimsonNBlue]

1. Monitor shouldn't be that expensive, might even be able to find good deals on slightly used since people are going back to offices.

I bought an Acer 24" IPS Full HD 3 years ago for right around $100. I'm sure it is even cheaper now.

Every time I have started to buy a near top of the line LG 4K because of WFH, I just ask myself why and can't do it when it's all just Office Suite, Browser, Zoom, etc.

[pdub]

1. Monitor shouldn't be that expensive, might even be able to find good deals on slightly used since people are going back to offices.

I bought an Acer 24" IPS Full HD 3 years ago for right around $100. I'm sure it is even cheaper now.

Every time I have started to buy a near top of the line LG 4K because of WFH, I just ask myself why and can't do it when it's all just Office Suite, Browser, Zoom, etc.

Related to my above question ( just curious, not frontin' ).

[CrimsonNBlue]

I'm not a big techie, but it just feels like how your smartphone feels--you know it is powerful, fast, and running a bunch of shit simultaneously, but you wouldn't even know that the system is on. It redefines memory. 8GB memory card in M1 feels like it is a 16GB on Intel silicon.

Certainly better from a laptop perspective. The Air doesn't even have a fan, doesn't need it. I have read the Pro's fans hardly ever run. Just fast as shit.

[Deleted User 880]

For whatever any of this is worth - which is probably nothing.
My mother had a new (late 2020/early 2021?) MacBook Air with an M1 chip.
I won't go in to the nightmares she (and I) had with it - and Apple. All I will say is the thing was a defective piece of shit and Apple customer service continuously blew gigantic whale dick.
That being said, her replacement is running extremely well. Granted, she doesn't really use it for much.

Sounds like just a lemon issue and is fine now.


I haven't been this pleased with a new Apple innovation since the iPhone. AirPods and iPad were also great, but this feels like Apple's first big hit in quite awhile on the personal computer side of things. And it's the first version of their silicon. They are going to sell a shit-ton of computers over next decade+.

Yes, it was "just a lemon" but the MANY phone calls, visits to the Apple Store, etc., really soured me on Apple. It was a HORRIBLE extremely frustrating experience - but of course much of that was exacerbated with/by the virus "protocols". Hey, sometimes shit happens.
Meanwhile, as I said, her replacement is working/running extremely well and I am tempted to buy a new computer myself. Even though I surely don't need one.

Sorry for the hijack!
Now back to pdub and people hopefully giving him some solid advice.

[pdub]

If gutter's mom doesn't like it, that's it, i'm gettin' a Dell.

[CrimsonNBlue]

For whatever any of this is worth - which is probably nothing.
My mother had a new (late 2020/early 2021?) MacBook Air with an M1 chip.
I won't go in to the nightmares she (and I) had with it - and Apple. All I will say is the thing was a defective piece of shit and Apple customer service continuously blew gigantic whale dick.
That being said, her replacement is running extremely well. Granted, she doesn't really use it for much.

Sounds like just a lemon issue and is fine now.


I haven't been this pleased with a new Apple innovation since the iPhone. AirPods and iPad were also great, but this feels like Apple's first big hit in quite awhile on the personal computer side of things. And it's the first version of their silicon. They are going to sell a shit-ton of computers over next decade+.

Yes, it was "just a lemon" but the MANY phone calls, visits to the Apple Store, etc., really soured me on Apple. It was a HORRIBLE extremely frustrating experience - but of course much of that was exacerbated with/by the virus "protocols". Hey, sometimes shit happens.
Meanwhile, as I said, her replacement is working/running extremely well and I am tempted to buy a new computer myself. Even though I surely don't need one.

Sorry for the hijack!
Now back to pdub and people hopefully giving him some solid advice.

The Apple Store lines during COVID have been comical.

[shindig]

Can someone start an HP thread?