Evil Rich People

[pdub]

I'm on my phone right now but will move this thread to the poli bored when I get on my laptop later.

Dont worry all.

[ousdahl]

Well since this is destined for the poli bored anyway…


EEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

https://www.axios.com/americas-continue ... c4e67.html

The intrigue: Shifts are happening on the right as well as the left, at least among those under 35.

Just 66% of Republicans and GOP-leaners ages 18-34 have a positive view of capitalism, down from 81% in January 2019, when we first polled on these questions.

56% of younger Republicans say the government should pursue policies that reduce the wealth gap, up from just 40% two years ago.

By the numbers: In 2019, 58% of Americans ages 18-34 reacted positively to the word capitalism. That's plunged to 49% today.

Back then, 39% of all U.S. adults viewed socialism positively. That has since ticked up to 41%.

Socialism has positive connotations for 60% of Black Americans, 45% of American women and 33% of non-white Republicans. Those numbers have grown over the past two years from 53%, 41% and 27%, respectively.

Only 48% of American women view capitalism in a positive light, down from 51% two years ago.

Today, 18-34 year-olds are almost evenly split between those who view capitalism positively and those who view it negatively (49% vs. 46%). Two years ago, that margin was a gaping 20 points (58% vs. 38%).

The bottom line: Politicians looking to attack opponents to their left can no longer use the word "socialist" as an all-purpose pejorative. Increasingly, it's worn as a badge of pride.

[Overlander]

A direct result of the word mostly being screamed by the swarmiest D-Bags on Earth?

[Deleted User 89]

wtf is going on in here?

[ChalkRocker]

ummmm...melt-downs, I guess

[Cascadia]

Yeah, it's all part of an illy meltdown

[ousdahl]

This really does belong in the covid thread

but I also know it’ll really upset some posters to suggest that maybe billionaires really are sociopaths, and that maybe capitalism really is the economics of greed…

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases ... accinating

At least nine people have become new billionaires since the beginning of the COVID pandemic, thanks to the excessive profits pharmaceutical corporations with monopolies on COVID vaccines are making, The People’s Vaccine Alliance revealed today ahead of a G20 leaders Global Health Summit.

Key members of the G20, who meet tomorrow, including the UK and Germany, are blocking moves to boost supply by ending companies’ monopoly control of vaccine production as COVID-19 continues to devastate lives in countries like India and Nepal where only a tiny fraction of the population has been vaccinated.
Between them, the nine new billionaires, have a combined net wealth of $19.3 billion, enough to fully vaccinate all people in low-income countries 1.3 times. Meanwhile, these countries have received only 0.2 per cent of the global supply of vaccines, because of the massive shortfall in available doses, despite being home to 10 per cent of the world’s population.

In addition, eight existing billionaires –who have extensive portfolios in the COVID-19 vaccine pharma corporations– have seen their combined wealth increase by $32.2 billion, enough to fully vaccinate everyone in India.

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/grea ... s-covid-19

The cost of vaccinating the world against COVID-19 could be at least five times cheaper if pharmaceutical companies weren’t profiteering from their monopolies on COVID-19 vaccines, campaigners from The People’s Vaccine Alliance said today.

New analysis by the Alliance shows that the firms Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna are charging governments as much as $41 billion above the estimated cost of production. Colombia, for example, has potentially overpaid by as much as $375 million for its doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, in comparison to the estimated cost price.

Despite a rapid rise in COVID cases and deaths across the developing world, Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna have sold over 90 percent of their vaccines so far to rich countries, charging up to 24 times the potential cost of production.

Last week Pfizer/BioNTech announced it would licence a South African company to fill and package 100 million doses for use in Africa, but this is a drop in the ocean of need. Neither company have agreed to fully transfer vaccine technology and know-how with any capable producers in developing countries, a move that could increase global supply, drive down prices and save millions of lives.

Analysis of production techniques for the leading mRNA type vaccines produced by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna ―which were only developed thanks to public funding to the tune of $8.3 billion― suggest these vaccines could be made for as little as $1.20 a dose. Yet COVAX, the scheme set up to help countries get access to COVID vaccines, has been paying, on average, nearly five times more. COVAX has also struggled to get enough doses and at the speed required, because of the inadequate supply and the fact that rich nations have pushed their way to the front of the queue by willingly paying excessive prices.

[Mjl]

Yes, that's Capitalism. They get rich, we get vaccines, it's a win win.

Again, it really seems you hate people getting rich way more than you actually care about the poor. You seem like you would rather have everyone suffer, as generally happens with the opposite of Capitalism, just to make sure someone isn't getting rich, even if the poor are better off.

[ousdahl]

https://twitter.com/uberfacts/status/14 ... 28673?s=21

[jhawks99]

Didn't the former Mrs Beezos take half of Jeff's money?

[Deleted User 863]

Yes, that's Capitalism. They get rich, we get vaccines, it's a win win.

Again, it really seems you hate people getting rich way more than you actually care about the poor. You seem like you would rather have everyone suffer, as generally happens with the opposite of Capitalism, just to make sure someone isn't getting rich, even if the poor are better off.

It's no accident that this never got a reply.

[ousdahl]

So I’m supposed to reply every single time you guys put words in my mouth?

[ousdahl]

Didn't the former Mrs Beezos take half of Jeff's money?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 66409.html

[ousdahl]

Do billionaires ever not get divorces?

[PhDhawk]

Do billionaires ever not get divorces?

Warren Buffett.

[PhDhawk]

Do billionaires ever not get divorces?

Oprah

[ousdahl]

I suppose I’m curious if the divorce rate is higher for billionaires, relative to the general population.

NPR had a thing a while back about how the divorce rate is higher for start-up entrepreneurs, but that’s not necessarily the same.

And the reasons were fairly straight forward: between the the stress that comes with a startup, the intense type-A personalities usually involved, and the fact an ex can usually walk away with half, it’s just generally not a recipe for a long and happy marriage.

[Deleted User 863]

What a weird thing to think. That divorce is an issue more exclusive to rich people. Strange.

[PhDhawk]

It's weird to give a group you hate so much, so much rent free time in your brain.

[ousdahl]

Oh come on bro, it’s not like I’m being pissy just cuz y’all complained about an early checkin.

Without vilifying any individuals, can I say that the inequality and insustainability in the world really do concern me?

Also if insustainability wasn’t already a word, it is now.