Let’s have a war!

[Shirley]

https://youtu.be/qfWLj1itlrA?si=RR4FnxP0MxXyMYN7

https://youtu.be/3d7hDihe3uk?si=2ytpzBXWyXpazJkn

[TDub]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

[KUTradition]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

shouldn’t that go in the war thread?

[TDub]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

shouldn’t that go in the war thread?

isn't this the war thread? I know they are all kinda overlapping these days

[KUTradition]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

shouldn’t that go in the war thread?

isn't this the war thread? I know they are all kinda overlapping these days

lmao…it is

not sure what i was thinking

[ousdahl]

The co-optee influence operations are built primarily on personal relationships … they build trust with them and then they can leverage that to covertly push the FSB’s agenda

leave they/them outta this!

jk lol but for real. I wish that article elaborated on the nature of the campaigns. The most damning thing they mention is *checks notes* uh, claims that some humanitarian group in...um, Syria? was actually running a black market for human organs and faking chemical attacks...sometimes?

and also one mention at the end about Ukrainian nazis, but I've maintained all along that The New York Times and PBS and Zelensky and such publishing all that evidence of Ukrainian nazis were actually just Putin parrots all along.

[TDub]

youre fairly impossible to have any sort of dialogue with, even when presented with seemingly credible sources.

I know this, and I didnt post that article to prove anything to you, that is impossible and I like to live in reality.

[ousdahl]

forgive me if I come across as impossible. There was a flippant tone in some of that post, I suppose.

but, for CNN to mention "Ukraine nazis" as practically an afterthought at the end of an article about Russian propaganda infiltrating westerners, without providing any examples or evidence of as much, almost comes across as western propaganda in itself, more so than an actually credible article.

[KUTradition]

i don’t know what to tell you, dude

Ukraine wanted/wants closer ties to the west and the EU

vlad doesn’t like that

[TDub]

forgive me if I come across as impossible. There was a flippant tone in some of that post, I suppose.

but, for CNN to mention "Ukraine nazis" as practically an afterthought at the end of an article about Russian propaganda infiltrating westerners, without providing any examples or evidence of as much, almost comes across as western propaganda in itself, more so than an actually credible article.

Did ya read it? It's s saying that Russia was/is pushing the Ukraine Nazi narrative. Its working as evidenced here by our very own Mr impossible.

[Shirley]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

"inception"?

I've taken it for granted since the 2016 campaign.

[TDub]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

"inception"?

I've taken it for granted since the 2016 campaign.

I meant more along the lines of the movie

propaganda within propaganda buried within propaganda. Where does it start, where does it end.

[Shirley]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... index.html

propaganda inception

"inception"?

I've taken it for granted since the 2016 campaign.

I meant more along the lines of the movie

propaganda within propaganda buried within propaganda. Where does it start, where does it end.

Makes sense.

I wondered, but decided nahhhhhh.

[Sparko]

Watched Winter on Fire about Manafort's legacy and Maidan in Ukraine on Netflix. Powerful documentary. My God the Ukrainians have suffered for freedom.

[ousdahl]

i don’t know what to tell you, dude

Ukraine wanted/wants closer ties to the west and the EU

you sure?

like every single Ukrainian homogeneously feels that way? not a single one was, or is still, maybe just a little salty about their DeMoCrAtIcAlLy ElEcTeD president being ousted by a bunch of far right militants, and the somebody who helped them stage the coup? Where was all the #StandWithUkraine then?


...sorry for all the rhetorical questions.

it was either that, or, simply pointing out that we were told Iraq wanted closer ties to the west, too.

[Sparko]

Ous: Watch Winter on Fire and you will stop saying silly stuff about Ukraine.

[KUTradition]

i don’t know what to tell you, dude

Ukraine wanted/wants closer ties to the west and the EU

you sure?

like every single Ukrainian homogeneously feels that way? not a single one was, or is still, maybe just a little salty about their DeMoCrAtIcAlLy ElEcTeD president being ousted by a bunch of far right militants, and the somebody who helped them stage the coup? Where was all the #StandWithUkraine then?


...sorry for all the rhetorical questions.

it was either that, or, simply pointing out that we were told Iraq wanted closer ties to the west, too.

you’re not sorry

i don’t recall any claim that iraq wanted to be more aligned with the west, but feel free to source your claim

are you trying to be a dick about this? cuz that’s how you’re coming off

[TDub]

tHiS IsnT IrAQ

you petulant child

[Shirley]

https://youtu.be/14tDIqxgMno?si=qvlMx-93UCun4OGR

[Sparko]

Ous:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/25/politics ... %3A01%3A05